john 1:1 is the adaptation from other cultures where it is taught that we are all gods.
if expanded, john 1:1 would read like this: “in the beginning there was only god and he created the universe out of himself.
that means you are made out of god and you are a part of god, hence you are god just as much as jesus was.
Interesting topic, generally speaking, about biblical stories copying older pagan beliefs. Many pagan communities were pagan, only to become closer to the divine. They knew [at least,] that there was more to know spiritually than they knew so they would try to gain a knowledge of divinity, but had not received these types of revelations. They could have stumbled upon or had been taught truths during their journeys.
Remember the saying -even a broken clock is right twice a day
jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.
if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.
now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.
BlackSpirit - "...Detailed prophecies in the Bible were written centuries ahead of time and came true exactly as predicted..."
yes, thank the Catholic Church for any biblical prophesy. Just regurgitating what Catholics have written is not prophesy, it's repeating what someone else already wrote....a Catholic...just saying ....specifically to Black Spirit
jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.
if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.
now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.
The inference I draw from the Holy Scriptures quoted above is that Jehovah's Witnesses are opposed because they actually have God's and Christ's endorsement and approval.
So who gave the WTS this authority? The authority to interpret the bible and say that it is they that the bible refers to? The WTS took a Catholic book [the bible] and try to claim it as their own. It's not. It's a Catholic book from Catholic men from the Church that Jesus started..
Sorry, but it's true...real truth, not the 'Truth' tm
hahaha
my wife's parents are in very bad shape.
they are both 2nd gen jws.
my father in law worked for a large american manufacturing company in the 60s and early 70s.
Whenever I ask my uber elder brother about any elderly brothers and sisters from his cong [or former congs] he ALWAYS tells me that they are not doing well. Health, financial and mental problems always an issue for most rank and file elderly JWs.
My reply is that HE will be among them as he ages and he will realize that HE is going to die. No getting around that one. He will not see the big A, although I have no idea when the big A is coming, I have millions of years of history to look back on. The same history that proves the WTS as a false prophet promoting it's own end.
No fruits, only works [going door to door restoring the name Jehovah] that produce no fruits what so ever.
Sorry, not trying to kill this thread, it's just that damn! WTF?
my wife's parents are in very bad shape.
they are both 2nd gen jws.
my father in law worked for a large american manufacturing company in the 60s and early 70s.
Current Jehovah's Witnesses pay close attention! This will be your fate if you don't accept the reality that the future they promise you is a man made control scam. Get out!
i recently had a discussion with a jw concerning a change in wording of a scripture - in fact this was my all time favourite scripture, namely, micah 6:8.. my view is that the wtbts have deliberately changed the wording and meaning of the said scripture.
the other person is of the opinion that that is not the case.
micah 6:8.
Q- When does the bible stop being the bible?
A- When you place NWT before the word bible
this is my first post.
i'm still a jw but am inactive.
im struggling with the fact that i agree with some of the doctrines (i,e, the stance on the trinity, there is no hell) but i disagree with a lot of things (i,e, men can't have beards, women have to wear skirts).
Welcome. Lots of emotion will come with your journey. You'll be mad about how you were lied to, but you'll be grateful for the chance to research without the WTS colored glasses.
It was helpful to me to acknowledge that the fruits of the WTS were not there.
Restoring Gods name and going door to door are not fruits, they're works. And it's works that bear no fruit. That fact helped me unplug
so does anyone else find it odd that jws base their whole faith on the bible?.
the bible was never in the plan for christianity.
the apostles spread the good news as they were instructed to by christ jesus .
So does anyone else find it odd that JWs base their whole faith on the bible?
The bible was never in the plan for Christianity. The apostles spread the good news as they were instructed to by Christ Jesus
18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of allnations, baptizing them in the name of the Father,and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Jesus never wrote or instructed anyone to write these things down. No instruction or reference to writing new scriptures. The NT scriptures came after Christianity was spread orally.The bible is/was a Catholic book which they wrote. It's odd to me that a faith would base itself on a fruit of the Catholic Church while it calls that same Church corrupted by Satan.
apparently he no longer is our savior and the "way and the truth and the life" or our mediator between god and man .
the governing body took over that role.
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Millions living now will/may never die
Jesus is the angel Michael
Jesus inspected all religions and picked the JWs as the true religion
Jesus returned....invisible to all but the GB
Lying for 'The Truth" tm
The true religion is based on a book [the bible] given to the world by Satan's organization 'The Catholic Church'
Therefor, go to all nations and make disciples baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
BECAUSE they know that all "worldly" folk will think they are absolutely crazy if they said how the really feel,
