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  Who Resurrected Jesus?

  by snakeface in

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  one of the heresies of the wt is denying the divinity of christ.

  during this "memorial season" they say that jehovah (god the father?

  ) resurrected jesus.

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  TTWSYF

  Sorry, I posted this on the wrong topic earlier.

  
  

  God the Trinity rose Jesus from the dead according to the bible

  In Acts 2:24, Peter says that “God raised [Jesus] from the dead” (see also Romans 8:11 and 2 Corinthians 4:14). Romans 1:4 (and possibly 1 Peter 3:18) seems to say that the Spirit raised Jesus from the dead (Romans 8:11 clearly says that God will resurrect believers “through His Spirit”). And in John 2:19 Jesus predicts that He will raise Himself from the dead (see also John 10:18).
  
  “God has raised . . . Jesus to life” (Acts 2:32). The Father is God, and the Father raised His Son to life on the third day after the crucifixion (Romans 6:4; 2 Corinthians 13:4). The Spirit is also God, and the Spirit had a part in raising Jesus from the dead. The Son is also God, and the Son, too, was responsible for His own resurrection.
  
  How can a dead man resurrect himself? Jesus was more than a man who died; He was the eternal Son of God incarnate. Wicked men could kill His body, but they could not change His eternal nature or diminish His divine power. In John 10:17–18 Jesus says something that no mere mortal could ever say: “I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again.” No one else in the history of the world has ever had the authority both to lay down his life and raise it up again.
  
  Jesus said, “I am the resurrection and the life” (John 11:25). He did not say, “My Father is the resurrection.” He claimed to be the resurrection Himself; life resides with Jesus, and He has authority over life and death (Revelation 1:18). Jesus is God. He could say He would raise up His body on the third day because He, being God, has power over death.
  
  Who resurrected Jesus from the dead? God did, and by that we mean all three Persons of the Trinitywere involved. All three Persons of the Trinity participated in creation (1 Corinthians 8:6; Genesis 1:1–2). All three are involved in salvation (John 3:6, 16). And all three are responsible for the resurrection of Christ Jesus.

  So I guess the bible confirms the belief that God is a trinity. Go figure that one out.

  TTWSYF
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  The Truth about the bible

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it really is common sense, but nobody here seems to recognize or acknowledge this blatant and obvious truth.. the holy bible is the result of the catholic liturgy.

  they used these scriptures in their religious practices and confirmed which books would and would not be part of their cannon.

  they picked, preserved and promoted these books and gave 'the word of god' to the world.. i know that pisses off some folks, but it is the truth [not the 'truth'tm].

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  God the Trinity rose Jesus from the dead according to the bible

  
  In Acts 2:24, Peter says that “God raised [Jesus] from the dead” (see also Romans 8:11 and 2 Corinthians 4:14). Romans 1:4 (and possibly 1 Peter 3:18) seems to say that the Spirit raised Jesus from the dead (Romans 8:11 clearly says that God will resurrect believers “through His Spirit”). And in John 2:19 Jesus predicts that He will raise Himself from the dead (see also John 10:18).
  
  “God has raised . . . Jesus to life” (Acts 2:32). The Father is God, and the Father raised His Son to life on the third day after the crucifixion (Romans 6:4; 2 Corinthians 13:4). The Spirit is also God, and the Spirit had a part in raising Jesus from the dead. The Son is also God, and the Son, too, was responsible for His own resurrection.
  
  How can a dead man resurrect himself? Jesus was more than a man who died; He was the eternal Son of God incarnate. Wicked men could kill His body, but they could not change His eternal nature or diminish His divine power. In John 10:17–18 Jesus says something that no mere mortal could ever say: “I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again.” No one else in the history of the world has ever had the authority both to lay down his life and raise it up again.
  
  Jesus said, “I am the resurrection and the life” (John 11:25). He did not say, “My Father is the resurrection.” He claimed to be the resurrection Himself; life resides with Jesus, and He has authority over life and death (Revelation 1:18). Jesus is God. He could say He would raise up His body on the third day because He, being God, has power over death.
  
  Who resurrected Jesus from the dead? God did, and by that we mean all three Persons of the Trinity were involved. All three Persons of the Trinity participated in creation (1 Corinthians 8:6; Genesis 1:1–2). All three are involved in salvation (John 3:6, 16). And all three are responsible for the resurrection of Christ Jesus.

  So I guess the bible confirms the belief that God is a trinity. Go figure that one out.

  TTWSYF
  
  
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  The Truth about the bible

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it really is common sense, but nobody here seems to recognize or acknowledge this blatant and obvious truth.. the holy bible is the result of the catholic liturgy.

  they used these scriptures in their religious practices and confirmed which books would and would not be part of their cannon.

  they picked, preserved and promoted these books and gave 'the word of god' to the world.. i know that pisses off some folks, but it is the truth [not the 'truth'tm].

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  Mary's role is also in the tradition of a Jewish queen mother. The queen was the king's mother, not the king's spouse. Jewish kings would take council from their mothers and subjects would from time to time appeal to the queen mother for favor from the king. Mary is the most blessed woman according to the bible.
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  Who Resurrected Jesus?

  by snakeface in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the heresies of the wt is denying the divinity of christ.

  during this "memorial season" they say that jehovah (god the father?

  ) resurrected jesus.

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  Can't believe that all these biblical scholars that the WTS produces cannot/will not reply to this very easy biblical question. They hate the real truth in my mind.

  God the Father rose Jesus from the dead AND Jesus rose from the dead from his own accord, Bible says both. He did it by himself and he did it from the authority of God the Father.

  Such an important question. What is truth? Not the WTS. that's for sure

  TTWSYF
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  Who is The Lord?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
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  the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..

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  Love is alive? A coherent being? That doesn't make any sense. How could a being not be coherent?
  

  
  

  My point being that in the scriptures, the Holy Ghost/Spirit has the attributes of a person and not just a force as promoted by the WTS. Described as 'he' who can mourn, grieve, love, get angry, etc. Things that a being does, not an inanimate force.

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  Who is The Lord?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..

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  at last you have made an attempt at answering my question. Thank you.

  
  I'm going to have another read at it over the weekend and then get back to you with a thoughtful reply.

  My first thought is 'who are you and what did you do to Cofty?' But I'll await your reply....lol

  TTWSYF
  
  
  
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  The Truth about the bible

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it really is common sense, but nobody here seems to recognize or acknowledge this blatant and obvious truth.. the holy bible is the result of the catholic liturgy.

  they used these scriptures in their religious practices and confirmed which books would and would not be part of their cannon.

  they picked, preserved and promoted these books and gave 'the word of god' to the world.. i know that pisses off some folks, but it is the truth [not the 'truth'tm].

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  The "Catholic Church" didn't exist until some time after Constantine converted in 312 AD

  History doesn't agree with this statement. You can look back in time and see where the church was in the first century, where it was in the 2nd century and so on and walk it all the way up to the present.

  The catholic church was started by Jesus and the apostles and was already feeding and clothing the poor and spreading the teachings and all of the commands of Christ many years [centuries] before the bible. The Bible is a by product of the Church that had already existed. Not the other way around.

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  Who is The Lord?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..

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  TPWSYF - You have lied repeatedly that you have already answered my challenge. I invited you to simply provide a link to the post where you did so. I promised that if you did that then I would apologise. I predicted you would refuse to backup your lies with a link.

  I was correct.

  First off, I am TTWSYF. That stands for 'The Truth Will Set You Free. Not 'The Phalanx Will Set You Fuc*&^%., OK Cofty?

  I am going to address your request with 100% sincerity. My analogy of time comparing to the Trinitarian Godhead was just an analogy. The Father, Son and Holy Ghost in the[true] Christian faith of the Trinity is like the relationship of time in so much as past, present and future are all equally time. Just an analogy. So here is my personal take on the trinity. This is just my take on something that cannot be explained. Not ashamed to acknowledge that I cannot explain the trinity...so here goes.

  God, the Father is an awesome being. Too awesome for comprehension. He [although, not a male or female, but is a fatherly person] is so awesome that when he speaks, his word/s are alive. He is God and he spoke us into existence. His words are alive. His word is Jesus and he is not only the word of God in law, he is also the spirit of God's law. That's how awesome that God the Father is. Because Jesus is God's word [in spirit], Jesus has all of the authority of God the Father. He is like the hand of God. Now because God loves his word, which is alive. He loves his word with so much love that his LOVE is alive. That;s how awesome God is, that not only is his word alive, but his love is alive also. To me, his love is the Holy spirit. Not an active force, but true to the scriptures, showing all the attributes of a coherent being. Hope that's short and sweet enough for you.

  coftya day ago

  Steel - I was an evangelical xtian. I probably understand theology better than most christians.

  The trinity is nowhere in the bible.

  Posts like this make me thing that I'm just wasting time with you. You are excessively arrogant and condescending. Are you worth me replying anymore?

  You seem to be suggesting that the trinity is not in the bible

  Definitely not. The bible states point blank that the Father, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are God. The word trinity was not recorded until the church father Terturllian I believe

  but the Catholic church have a special line to God which trumps scripture.

  the smartest thing that you have ever written in my mind. Why would I think such a thing, do you think?

  Shall we chat about the nest of pedophiles that is otherwise known as the Roman Catholic clergy sometime?

  I hate that. Just like everyone else. Want to talk about it here? Start a post topic

  TTWSYF, not TPWSYF
  
  
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  Who is The Lord?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..

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  You seem to be suggesting that the trinity is not in the bible but the Catholic church have a special line to God which trumps scripture. Shall we chat about the nest of pedophiles that is otherwise known as the Roman Catholic clergy sometime?

  That's how you answer a question that you don't like the correct answer. Theocratic warfare. WTS still has it's hooks in you.Let's change the subject of "Who is Lord" in the scriptures. 'I don't want to answer that question, I'll say anything to change the subject'
  

  I am willing to apologise if you can do that. I'm equally certain you can't
  

  Why would you apologize. Thought you were the victim. Why should I apologize? For calling you what your behavior suggest you are?

  You bore me Cofty...yawn

  
  
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  Who is The Lord?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..

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  Cofty says - My challenge remains. Please describe the trinity simply in your own words, without self-contradiction and without resorting to esoteric theological terms.

  No it doesn't. Your challenge has been answered, but your too proud to acknowledge. Common trait from a sociopath.

  That isn't true. I worked out that the religion I had been raised in was false so I admitted I was wrong and I left at great personal cost. I became an evangelical christian for almost a decade but I never stopped learning and testing my beliefs. I eventually worked out that it was not reasonable to believe in the existence of a loving god.

  Really? How, by reading the bible? That's only a small part of true Christianity. Did you ever go to the source? NO, You went from Dave's correspondence college [WTS] to Bill's community college [evangelical studies] when you could have [still could] go to the Harvard. [That's an analogy that is admittedly far better than my time analogy.lol]

  EXPLICITLY states that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are God. Period.

  The bible nowhere states the trinity. Why not?

  Don't need the word trinity as the bible EXPLICITLY states that Jesus, the Father and the Holy Ghost are God. You're just making nonsensical noise again. Still can't acknowledge what the bible says about 'Who is the Lord'....typical sociopath behavior

  My challenge is totally reasonable

  Again, no. No one or nothing compares to God, so you ask an impossible question and then boost about how smart you are.. You're so smart...not really

  Anyway, going back and forth over your same BS is tiring. I know that is your strategy to avoid the obvious truth that you are lacking ina complete Christian knowledge and lack the basic human attributes that make a person a contributor to the community. You bore me. and others too.

  On another note

  Onager3 hours ago

  I disagree. Past, present and future are all 100% time. The past was once the future and the present. The present was once the future and will be the past, The future will be the present and the past. Each one is 100 percent time all together at the same time. So how is that a convoluted illustration? Again, which word did you not understand.

  This analogy is equivalent to saying Cofty, Onager and TTWSYF are human, therefore, they are one.

  Thanks for clearing that up for me. It's so obvious to see now. lol

  TTWSYF