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  Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  2. bible

  the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

  they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

  " the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

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  MAD JW and anyone else interested.

  I Am is how God answered Moses when he asked 'who should I say told me these things' God asnwered 'tell them I am sent you' Sorry if that doesn't fly with you, but that's what scripture says....speaking of scripture, here's another that Watchtower adherents will ignore. This is strait from the NWT

  IS 9: 6 For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

  This is speaking of Jesus, right?

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  Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

  by Mad Sweeney in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

  they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

  " the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

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  too bad, he and all should embrace our Lord and Savior. He certainly has no 40 years experience interpreting scripture. That much is quite obvious....not trying to dig at you MJW, but be honest with this board and yourself. If you are true, people will want to listen to truth.

  I agree that I like Mary's posts, but I don't always agree with her... I hardly agree with myself.lol.

  dc
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  Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

  by Mad Sweeney in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

  they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

  " the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

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  Yes,I agree totally. This thread was taken over for a spell by folks attacking the trinity of all things. It's like 'hello, did you check the post headline?' Can you add anything to this discussion?
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  Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

  by Mad Sweeney in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

  they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

  " the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

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  Palmtree, you are quite welcome and I want to thank Stephen [Chalam], for always informative posts. Thanks Steve.'

  dc
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  Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

  by Mad Sweeney in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

  they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

  " the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

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  MadJW wrote- I have spent 40 years intensly studying different translations, and the Bible's background- and ALWAYS prove our NWT true to any who give any example they feel wrong! I FOCUS on the Hebrew and/or Greek, the context, and the others connected scriptures- always LOOKING to see if what I have seen to be True ISN'T.

  If you feel me wrong- give one example at a time, so we can look at it closely!

  Mad JW- Are you familair with the scripture that says 'always learning, but never getting accurate knowledge'? The obvious answer to your question is answered by the fact that no other organization or school of theology recognizes the NWT as an accurate, scholarly, untampered interpretation.

  I don't want to get to technical here, cause folks won't read things that are too lengthy, so let me just pick one example ..ok?

  ego eimi = I am. That is first week of Greek school you learn that. I am, I will, he is, she is, he will, she will, etc etc. John chap8:verse58 correctly translated has Jesus quoted 'before Abraham came to be, I AM' The Watchtower NWT changes the scripture to read 'before Abraham came into existence, I have been'

  That is a change by the Watchtower to cover up Jesus's use of the 'I AM' title used by God in Exodus 3:14. In the Greek Septuagint the Watchtower interprets ego eimi as I am in Exodus 3 :14. In the gospel of John, the Watchtower interprets ego eimi as 'I am 'everytime except John 3;16.

  Pretty clear cut and dry, don't cha think? You're a thinker, right?

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  Are there any Thinkers here?

  by theMadJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  or just you mndless ridiculers?.

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  Well, why not start with something SIMPLE? heh

  Is there REALLY a God? Or is it just the Imagination?

  Good questions MJW! That's where faith comes in, right?

  Personally, I'm a Christian, so I believe in God. I have a conscience and an awareness that no other [visible] creature on earth has.

  I have also had very personal experiences that have confirmed that fact to me. Others, I imagine, have had the same.

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  Is this Watchtower "trickery"?

  by hubert in

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  i had an appointment at the v.a.

  hospital this morning.

  while in the waiting room, i saw a watchtower brochure, so i picked it up, and put it in my pocket, so no one could read this trash.. when i got home, i looked it over for any good tidbits, and discovered a "quote" from the w.t.

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  you want real trickery? You need not get too technical

  Topic - Soul

  Soul = nephesh in Hebrew and Soul = psuche` in Greek. These 2 words appear some 900 times in the course of the old and new testaments. They have quite a wide range of meanings throughout the bible. Only someone in a cult could believe that you could sum up the soul in one bible verse......hello Eccl 9;5

  respectively,

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  Are there any Thinkers here?

  by theMadJW in

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  or just you mndless ridiculers?.

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  Some are thinkers, others are drinkers....of the koolaid

  dc
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  I read CofC this week on holiday...life changing stuff!

  by Lozhasleft in

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  hi everyone...thank you for all your well wishes for my scottish hols...it was nice..warm dry weather...lovely scenery...a good rest... what i will remember the most about the holiday is that i read ray franz's book there...in fact i struggled to put it down.

  it was so revealing and informative but was also written without bitterness or malice.

  it stirred many emotions within me ...too many probably...anger, remorse, indignation, sorrow, heartbreak, frustration, sympathy....you name it.... a big emotional journey for me....thanks to all for the recommend i would hate to have missed it..... loz x.

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  Why, the cathicism of th Catholic church...of course.

  Why is it interesting/helpful/good?

  It is interesting because you see how the traditions were set with their scriptural examples. Helpful in getting an education on what the Catholic church really teaches instead of the propaganda against the Church. Good? Good for learning the truth of the Church's teachings instead of reading quotes out of context. I feel terrible when I read that a former JW has given up their Christian faith because of the lies that the Watchtower promotes. Then that same ex JW feels like there is no where else to go. Don't give up your faith, just learn it better. I have yet to meet an ex Catholic who converted to Jehovah witnesses that was a good Catholic. They all had no true education in their faith and could not defend it against the seemingly scholarly proofs that JWs are trained in throwing. Any current JWs who are ex Catholics have an opposing opinion? Just curious. respectively, dc
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  Oklahomans shaken by crucifix that raises the stake issue

  by glenster in

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  2. scandals

  back to the god and godzilla difference:.

  "some worshipers at a catholic church in oklahoma are outraged over a. crucifix hanging above the main altar that they say shows an image of.

  genitalia on jesus, the oklahoman reports.".

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  Doncha think He might hold such things against you?

  dc