is the doctrine of hell a hindrance or a help in witnessing?
many evangelicals are ashamed of this biblical doctrine, viewing it as a blemish to be covered up by the cosmetic of divine love.
but this dishonors gods word.
Confutation 1. Where is Hell with a God that is Omnipresent (everywhere).
Designs, That's a good question. I don't have an answer, but I do believe the bible is the word of God...........
so, I guess I believe in hell. As a topic, hell is quite scriptural. It would be contrary to God's justice to think that my ultimate fate would be the same as Adolf Hitler's.
Again, just my humble O.
dc
is the doctrine of hell a hindrance or a help in witnessing?
many evangelicals are ashamed of this biblical doctrine, viewing it as a blemish to be covered up by the cosmetic of divine love.
but this dishonors gods word.
Some very funny and interesting posts on this subject. The bottom line is what do you believe? Do you believe the bible is the word of God?
The bible is quite clear that Jesus rose to heaven bodily. He wasn't the only one either, wasn't someone else in the OT taken to heaven on a fiery chariot?
How could he live? I guess with God, all things are possible. Do you believe that bible is the word of God or not.
Jesus spoke more of hell than heaven you know, but if the bible is just an interesting book, then no, there is no hell and Jesus never rose to heaven.
If the bible is the word of God, then, yes, there is a hell for the false prophet, fallen angels and those who refuse their savior.
Just adding my humble opinion.
Dc
my dad was a catholic and told me many times that the church had secrets stored up regarding the book of reverlation, and if they were to become public knowledge this would cause world panic, do you have any info on this as it's well known in the uk..
This is the typical bs I hear and read from many Catholic haters. Of course, no proof is ever provided about these rumors. Who creates more fear through the book of revelation than the Watchtower? Who changes scripture and twists it to mean something other than what it says? The bible is a Catholic book. They voted on the canon and they have 2,000 years of bringing it to the people. Conversely, the Watchtower asserts that it has a new and different teaching of Christ Jesus. Totally contridicting the word of God.
I've been away a little while, too bad to hear that some people still equate evil people in the Catholic faith as Catholic teachings. One should look at it's teachings to see the truth, not the sinners in any church. As scripture states, the Church is made up of the good and bad and the Lord will seperate the wheat from the chaffe.
Respectfully,
dc
working in a bookstore i notice the thousands and thousands of books "explaining" what the bible really "means.".
those are what people read.. when people say they read the bible they are really saying they "try".
but, it is like reading chinese.. so, what they end up doing is reading opinions.. opinions, conjectures, hypothesis, fantasy, imaginative ruminations, fanciful concoctions......other people's ideas presented as documentary fact.. .
designs, could you be more specific? Where would I find this proof that this was actual Christian teachings. Not some teaching that was voted heresy by a council of elders if you please.
dc
source: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.
well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.
thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.
PSAC wrote
Well, it seems to me the IF the writers and law makers of the OT and Old covenant had gotten it right, there would have been no need for Jesus to come into the picture.
Of course if you don't believe in Jesus and his Lordship, then it is a moot point.
I always thought that Jesus had to come because of Adam and Eve.....am I wrong?
dc
working in a bookstore i notice the thousands and thousands of books "explaining" what the bible really "means.".
those are what people read.. when people say they read the bible they are really saying they "try".
but, it is like reading chinese.. so, what they end up doing is reading opinions.. opinions, conjectures, hypothesis, fantasy, imaginative ruminations, fanciful concoctions......other people's ideas presented as documentary fact.. .
200BCE to 200CE was an interesting era in Jewish writing with much of the Pseudopigrapha being produced. The Oracles of Sibyl , The Assumption of Moses, The Book of Jubilees etc.. Sybil wrote such an evangelizing retelling of the supernatural history of the Jews that Christian missionaries copied her style for their own use. They interpoloated into the jewish stories passages predicitng the coming of Jesus as the Messiah.
The Book of Jewish Knowledge by Ausubel
Designs, Any proof that these were actual christian teachings?
dc
http://www.themadjws.com/whoismichael.htm.
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let me know what you think- for i will be adding to the info!.
What is very important is a religous belief. Not how people behave, because Satan can [and does] tempt us all, no matter what our faith is. His will is to destroy families, friendships love and the earth.
What are your religous beliefs? Are they true? Are they in keeping with scripture? Are they unchanging? That's what truth is. A faith that does not change.
Michael is God's champion angel. In greek, angelos is translated as messanger. Jesus can speak with an angels voice and be rightfully declaring God's will with out being an angel.
No church father thought that Jesus was an angel...
Let me say that again. No church father ever thought that Jesus was an angel. Every church father [listed in the "should you believe in the trinity" propaganda] asserted that Jesus was God himself, but also fully man. Not even 2% angel. They all have complete writtings available for all to read. Read and then speak with wisdom instead of ignorance.
respectfully,
dc
no one comes to the father except through me.
if you had known me, you would have known my father also.
(see hebrews 1:10; colossians 1:16-17; john 1:3).
I've dated a Jew for a few years in my past and my sister married a Jew [and she's a very devout catholic]. When we would celebrate the high holidays with them, they would open the door for Elijah who would usher in and prepare the way for the Lord. They believe that God himself will be their savior. No Jew ever believed that the angel Michael [or any other angel for that matter] is their savior.
I'll say that again. Jews, who are not Christian, believe that God himself is their savior.....and guess what?...They're right.
dc
ecclesiastes.
12:1212 as regards anything besides these, my son, take a warning: to the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion [to them] is wearisome to the flesh.
and just how many books has the slave published since its beginning?
Book publishing is not a problem if you are truely giving spiritual food, but how many of those 200 book are now considered old light? Not just old light, but no good light?
dc
http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.
Plankton,
Still ignoring the blatant mis-translation of 'I have been'? I don't blame you. When you apply the scriptures to those who change/twist/and lie, there really is no answer.
I have a new question for you , or any other JW 'scholar' who defends the NWT as
'The New World Translation was prepared by anointed witnesses of Jehovah, who transmitted his thoughts and declarations as accurately as possible. These men have chosen to remain anonymous, since they did not seek prominence, and God's word should stand on it's own merits. The NWT is an accurate, largely literal translation from the original languages. It is not a loose paraphrase in which th authors add ideas that they believe will be helpful. Reasoning from the scriptures 1985 p276-277.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahah.....sorry. ah hem.
Please explain to me how John 1;1 gets translated as 'the word was a god'....Tell me, did you read that in the gospel of a John?!
dc
