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Interpret John 1:1 by John 1:1.

by towerwatchman in

interpret john 1:1 by john 1:1. .

the greek language has the definite article which has approximately thirty variations, is translated into english as “the”, and points to an identifiable personality, someone we have prior knowledge of.

but the greek language has no indefinite article corresponding to the english “a”, or “an”.

TTWSYF

This is going down a branch from the tree, but the bible says explicitly and specifically that the Father is God, the Holy Ghost is God and Jesus is God. Clear and explicit.

Yachid and Echad

These are the 2 words for 'one' in Hebrew.

Why 2 words for one? Because languages do not always translate into other cultures' vocabularies.

There is the singular one that we all know in the English language and there is a plural 'one' in Hebrew that indicates the combining of things to create a [plural] one.

DIrect and explicit examples in the OT include

'Day and night became one [plural one] day'. 'Husband and Wife became one [plural] flesh' AND every instance where God is declared as One God in Hebrew it is with the plural 'one' . Clearly the OT is filled with explicit truths regarding God as more than the solitary 'oneness' that unitarians like JWs promote.

Also worth mentioning that Jew believe that God is their savior AND that he will come in the flesh. They just don't believe that Jesus was the Savior.

respectfully,

TTWSYF

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Interpret John 1:1 by John 1:1.

by towerwatchman in

interpret john 1:1 by john 1:1. .

the greek language has the definite article which has approximately thirty variations, is translated into english as “the”, and points to an identifiable personality, someone we have prior knowledge of.

but the greek language has no indefinite article corresponding to the english “a”, or “an”.

TTWSYF

Well done TWM. Explained clearly. It may not mean that Jesus is God, but it does mean that John says he is in His written gospel of Jesus.

There is a Greek linguistic rule which confirms your analysis.

I think it's called Glanvilles Sharp Rule, but I may have the rule name wrong.

I hope this OP is a catalyst for others who consider themselves to be bible students to look at more scholarly sources for their research as opposed to limiting their sources to one questionable source.

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It seems that many witnesses simply dont care about facts?

by stuckinarut2 in

i often wonder if the current crop of witnesses, especially the youth and younger ones simply don't care about facts?.

i mean for some, even with knowledge of the past scandals, misleading teachings, mistruths, etc etc, they simply don't care.

"it is the truth after all".. they are so intertwined in the operations and activities of the society, that they cant see anything outside of it.

TTWSYF

Vidiot6 hours ago

stuckinarut2 - "It seems that many witnesses simply dont care about facts..."

Some do.

They usually end up here.

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Heres to you Saint Patrick

by zeb in

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cheers all ill have an irish coffee for ye all..

TTWSYF

Some St Patrick facts.

He was really Scottish [some sources will say British]

He was kidnapped [when a child] by Irish raiders who took him back to Ireland and forced him into slavery.

He escaped years later and made it home and then went to Rome and became a priest and later was sent to Ireland as a bishop to convert the isle from paganism.

He is a saint for converting the Irish to Christianity [Catholicism specifically] AND there were never any snakes in Ireland.

Remember, the truth will set you free

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It seems that many witnesses simply dont care about facts?

by stuckinarut2 in

i often wonder if the current crop of witnesses, especially the youth and younger ones simply don't care about facts?.

i mean for some, even with knowledge of the past scandals, misleading teachings, mistruths, etc etc, they simply don't care.

"it is the truth after all".. they are so intertwined in the operations and activities of the society, that they cant see anything outside of it.

TTWSYF

Rainbow_Troll9 hours ago

Unless a JW can perspnally verify a given fact, it all comes down to a choice of who to believe: Jehovah or Satan?

Umm, that is just sad, because the bible [that JWs say they follow more than anyone else] is filled with facts that are written down and are very easy to confirm that go completely against JW beliefs.

Who to believe, Jehovah or Satan?! Give me a break.

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It seems that many witnesses simply dont care about facts?

by stuckinarut2 in

i often wonder if the current crop of witnesses, especially the youth and younger ones simply don't care about facts?.

i mean for some, even with knowledge of the past scandals, misleading teachings, mistruths, etc etc, they simply don't care.

"it is the truth after all".. they are so intertwined in the operations and activities of the society, that they cant see anything outside of it.

TTWSYF

my uber elder JW brother used to say 'we're lying for 'The Truth' (tm)

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"Best life ever" ?????

by charity7 in

is this a slogan that was recently come up with for jw's?

i've seen it used as a hashtag on instagram for jw's, key chains, cakes, about me biography description... the first thing i thought was, isn't that a little pretentious?

they complain so much about this life.

TTWSYF

Phizzya day ago

If they say it often enough, they will begin to believe it.

It is all so Orwellian and North Korean, sorry if those examples are becoming cliches, but that is exactly what it is.

Blatant untruth, Propaganda Grade A.

Nailed it

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JW VS Catholic

by Iamallcool in

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most of us know that jw despise the catholic church the most among many religions for many years.

my question is do catholic church despise jw as much as the witnesses despise the catholic faith?.

TTWSYF

Steel, I agree.

When I read the Watchtower and Awake mags I am amazed at the amount of print used to dump on other faiths. Not only that, but how little print they put in explaining their own faith. Not a lot of reasoning to put theirs into prospective.

That always led me to speculate the reason is because they have such little reasons for their beliefs, but they put it out to their cong full force.

My brother and his family think that they will not die....weird

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The Bible Texts Watchtower has never commented on

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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the watchtower library is a great tool to learn more about the watchtower itself.

for example, answering the question "does the word "organization" ever appear in the bible"?

is easy to answer using it.

TTWSYF

How about this one about the father and the other one about Jesus

IS 44; 6 This is what Jehovah says,

The King of Israel+ and his Repurchaser,+ Jehovah of armies:‘I am the first and I am the last.+

There is no God but me.+

And Rev 1;1717 When I saw him, I fell as dead at his feet.

And he laid his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First+ and the Last,+ 18 and the living one,+ and I became dead,+ but look! I am living forever and ever,+ and I have the keys of death and of the Grave.*+

The Truth Will Set You Free

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The Bible Texts Watchtower has never commented on

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

the watchtower library is a great tool to learn more about the watchtower itself.

for example, answering the question "does the word "organization" ever appear in the bible"?

is easy to answer using it.

TTWSYF

I have heard a comment on these verses about Jesus from elders that Jesus was a mighty god, but not Almighty God

NWT IS 9; 6 For a child has been born to us,+

A son has been given to us;And the rulership* will rest on his shoulder.+

His name will be called Wonderful Counselor,+ Mighty God,+ Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.