Q- When does the bible stop being the bible?
A- When you place NWT before the word bible
Posts by TTWSYF
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by Tallon ini recently had a discussion with a jw concerning a change in wording of a scripture - in fact this was my all time favourite scripture, namely, micah 6:8.. my view is that the wtbts have deliberately changed the wording and meaning of the said scripture.
the other person is of the opinion that that is not the case.
micah 6:8.
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How to deal with struggling with the doctrines
by Dval inthis is my first post.
i'm still a jw but am inactive.
im struggling with the fact that i agree with some of the doctrines (i,e, the stance on the trinity, there is no hell) but i disagree with a lot of things (i,e, men can't have beards, women have to wear skirts).
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TTWSYF
Welcome. Lots of emotion will come with your journey. You'll be mad about how you were lied to, but you'll be grateful for the chance to research without the WTS colored glasses.
It was helpful to me to acknowledge that the fruits of the WTS were not there.
Restoring Gods name and going door to door are not fruits, they're works. And it's works that bear no fruit. That fact helped me unplug
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So a religion based on a book by another religion?
by TTWSYF inso does anyone else find it odd that jws base their whole faith on the bible?.
the bible was never in the plan for christianity.
the apostles spread the good news as they were instructed to by christ jesus .
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TTWSYF
So does anyone else find it odd that JWs base their whole faith on the bible?
The bible was never in the plan for Christianity. The apostles spread the good news as they were instructed to by Christ Jesus
18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of allnations, baptizing them in the name of the Father,and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Jesus never wrote or instructed anyone to write these things down. No instruction or reference to writing new scriptures. The NT scriptures came after Christianity was spread orally.The bible is/was a Catholic book which they wrote. It's odd to me that a faith would base itself on a fruit of the Catholic Church while it calls that same Church corrupted by Satan.
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Special talk: "who is Jesus Christ?!
by nowwhat? inapparently he no longer is our savior and the "way and the truth and the life" or our mediator between god and man .
the governing body took over that role.
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Millions living now will/may never die
Jesus is the angel Michael
Jesus inspected all religions and picked the JWs as the true religion
Jesus returned....invisible to all but the GB
Lying for 'The Truth" tm
The true religion is based on a book [the bible] given to the world by Satan's organization 'The Catholic Church'
Therefor, go to all nations and make disciples baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
BECAUSE they know that all "worldly" folk will think they are absolutely crazy if they said how the really feel,
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More Catholic lies!!!
by TTWSYF inthe catholic church gets a lot of credit in this book by a protestant.
title-how the catholic church built western civilization.
below is a description from the back page of the book.
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TTWSYF
The Catholic Church gets a lot of credit in this book by a protestant. Title-How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization. Below is a description from the back page of the book. Research this and see for yourself what is true.
Ask someone today where Western Civilization originated, and he or she might say Greece or Rome. But what is the ultimate source of Western Civilization? Bestselling author and professor Thomas E. Woods, Jr. provides the long neglected answer: the Catholic Church. In the new paperback edition of his critically-acclaimed book, How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization, Woods goes far beyond the familiar tale of monks copying manuscripts and preserving the wisdom of classical antiquity. Gifts such as modern science, free-market economics, art, music, and the idea of human rights come from the Catholic Church, explains Woods. In How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization, you’ll learn:
- Why modern science was born in the Catholic Church
- How Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market economics five hundred years before Adam Smith
- How the Catholic Church invented the university
- Why what you know about the Galileo affair is wrong
- How Western law grew out of Church canon law
- How the Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life
No institution has done more to shape Western civilization than the two-thousand-year-old Catholic Church—and in ways that many of us have forgotten or never known. How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization is essential reading for recovering this lost truth. - Why modern science was born in the Catholic Church
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Why I'm rejoining the JWs
by Fred Franztone indear brothers and sisters.
after many years outside of the truth, living as an atheist, i have come to realise that i have been on the wrong path.
the fool has said in his heart that there is no god, and i have been a fool.
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TTWSYF
I know its a joke, but thought Id throw in some fodder
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Why I'm rejoining the JWs
by Fred Franztone indear brothers and sisters.
after many years outside of the truth, living as an atheist, i have come to realise that i have been on the wrong path.
the fool has said in his heart that there is no god, and i have been a fool.
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TTWSYF
I always find it quite fascinating to hear JWs [as well as any other christian] bashing the Catholic Church.
Where do we get the idea that the bible is the word of God? Answer; Catholic Church
Who gave the world the word of God? Answer ; Catholic Church
Who gave the world [the whole world] hospitals, universities, orphanages, mental health institutions, food banks, shelters [homeless, battered or other]? Answer ; Catholic Church
And the reward for such noble and honorable fruits ? Jws...hahahhaaha
they go door to door restoring Gods name. How can anyone keep a strait face while trying to compare?
Just saying, cause it's true
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The Trinity Easily Explained in 29 Words
by maccauk ina man can be a father .
a man can be a son.
a man can be a husband.
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TTWSYF
If you think of anything you would actually like to say in support of your views or have any facts that might show me where I am mistaken I am listening.
Cofty, Hahahah. Look who's talking...hahahaha
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The Trinity Easily Explained in 29 Words
by maccauk ina man can be a father .
a man can be a son.
a man can be a husband.
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No they didn't. The scientific method was a rebellion against the dogma of the church who opposed it with everything up to and including torture and murder.
Hahahaha, Ignorant posts like this are why I stopped engaging you rationally. You bought your JW beliefs hook line and sinker. Never thought to ask the people who gave you the bible what it meant. Only listened to questionable sources and try to speak with authority.
Cofty, you kill me. hahahaha
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The Trinity Easily Explained in 29 Words
by maccauk ina man can be a father .
a man can be a son.
a man can be a husband.
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TTWSYF
I wasn't trying to explain the Trinity. The Catholic church declares it a mystery. A mystery cannot be explained. That's why it's called a mystery.
I was only noting the facts as they have come about.
Fact- The trinity pushing Catholics DID give the world all that I listed and much more.
Love your neighbor, love your enemy. Isn't that weird?