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  Things you can not say in "field service" anymore.

  by greenhornet in

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  many years ago we would be on someone's doorstep, when waiting for the house holder to come to the door we say something like ... yea after the big a this is going to be my house.

  imagine saying that today with the common use of doorbell cameras and the squatting problem .

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  Media is no friend of JW.org

  Too easy to research WTS ever changing teachings.

  One teaching that won’t ever change is attacking other faiths so they can always say “where would you go?”

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  The changing teachings if Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  the changing teachings of jehovah's witnesses .

  menacingmistral writes:.

  "jehovah's witnesses often, not only change 180° from what they used to teach, they change from things they vehemently asserted were absolute truth.

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  Changing doctrines and teachings are examples of “the traditions of men”…sorry, but true

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  Lines you would never hear from a Jehovah's Witness

  by Ron.W. in

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  a slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.

  elder: 'yes.

  i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!

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  Lines you would never hear from a Jehovah's Witness?

  Jesus is Lord (while bending your knee)
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  So, why do JWs believe that hell is not what the Jesus, the apostles and the hearers of the apostles (church fathers) taught it was?

  Did someone answer and I missed it? Just asking…🤔
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  Sea Breeze,

  you are exactly right. When going rogue anything goes. That’s why there are 40,099-50,000 different types of Christianities. People read the Bible and totally reject the historical legitimate reasons for its use and development. As if they know better than the earliest Christians. I guess that’s what you say when you realize that you’re not actually a restoration movement, but rather a new semi faith.
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  Your position VH just does not make sense. How could God destroy his creation of humanity but he not destroy his creation of fallen angels? It just doesn’t ring true does it?
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  David says in the 23rd psalm that he will dwell in the house of the Lord forever. That indicates that the soul is immortal. Jesus told the good thief on the cross “today you’ll be with me in paradise “that indicates to me that the soul is immortal.

  The rich man and Lazarus are proof that the Lord punishes those who reject his ways of loving him and loving neighbors as ourselves.

  I see no evidence that supports. He will just let us die and be the end of it. None..

  You have shown me no proof to support that the soul is not immortal other than that’s what you want to believe.

  You do see that don’t you?
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  VH,

  Lazarus and the rich man IS proof.

  The rich man is BEING tormented. There’s no supporting texts saying that it’s going to end. That’s proof enough to me. He’s burning and NOT dying.

  where’s yours supporting your beliefs?
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  This thread is on hell and not the Pharisees.

  from the beginning of historical Christianity, it has been taught that the soul is immortal and can suffer tournaments in hell.

  Your position is a new one and I’m asking you to produce your reasons why you think the soul is not immortal.

  Lazarus and the rich man is a real and tangible example of how a soul being tormented in the fires of the afterlife was not consumed and destroyed but most definitely goes on suffering. There’s no mention of his sufferings ending is there?

  so again, could you please give me reasons why you think the soul would cease to exist. I’m looking for a reason why you think God would destroy his own creation which he made in his own likeness and image.

  Do you have anything other than asking for more proof?
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  What you believe does matter. That’s why we’re conversing on hell.

  Yes, VH, when I read about Lazarus and the rich man. I must say, that I take that quite literally. I put that with the rest of the evidence of an afterlife, and I don’t see how you could not take it literally.

  So you don’t have anything that really supports your position, is that right? Just don’t want it to be true?