*sigh* What does a person have to do to get some replies around here? I thought about changing my user name, but I chose it for a reason. Well next time I'll name my topic something like 'Losing religion....finding anal sex.
jesussaves
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Losing religion....Finding God
by jesussaves ini've given alot of thought to this subject, myself.
i used to blame god for my horrible childhood, and i know alot of people that blame the devil for bad things that are clearly the result of something that they did themselves.
i do believe in the supernatural, unexplained events that go on in this world.
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"Dubs For Dummies"
by Farkel indear brothers and sisters in the worldwide brotherhood of jehovahs witnessestm,.
there has been much public interest in our beliefs lately, so we have prepared a very brief summary of our core beliefs in a new pamphlet which you may offer to interested persons.
hopefully, this pamphlet will generate enough interest with honest-hearted people and enable you to start many new bible studies.
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jesussaves
Take a bow, Farkel! That was great. I have one question though. Because your post had everyone ROTFL does that make it FLUFF?????
Tiffany
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Losing religion....Finding God
by jesussaves ini've given alot of thought to this subject, myself.
i used to blame god for my horrible childhood, and i know alot of people that blame the devil for bad things that are clearly the result of something that they did themselves.
i do believe in the supernatural, unexplained events that go on in this world.
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jesussaves
I've given alot of thought to this subject, myself. I used to blame God for my horrible childhood, and I know alot of people that blame the devil for bad things that are clearly the result of something that they did themselves.
I do believe in the supernatural, unexplained events that go on in this world. I believe that there are people with varying degrees of psychic ability and power. I believe that EVIL is in this world because there are some atrocities that have been committed that are so contrary to human nature, it's inconceivable that someone decided on that course of action without influence from something sinister.
Everything in this world has balance, so if there is an Evil force such as the devil, then there must be a force for GOOD. I think that humans make the mistake of trying to rationalize and humanize GOD.
What if GOD doesn't intervene when people die, because what comes after is so incredible that all the pain and sorrow we felt in life is immediately forgotten? Something like how a woman goes through hours of agonizing pain to give birth to a child, but can feel nothing but joy once she sees what she has labored for. Do you think a caterpillar would want to go into that suffocating cocoon if the metamorphosis on the other side wasn't a beautiful butterfly?
I don't think that God intervenes in every last thing that we do. I believe the bible, and that Adam and Eve (humankind) chose dominion over their own lives. I think that God does answer when we pray, but a lot of times we are looking for a human answer. If you're looking for a human answer, then you might as well pray to yourself. (Is that what atheism is?)
People think too small when they think of God. If a person can believe that God COULD have created the universe then why can't they believe that he COULD solve their problems. My thing is, maybe in the whole grand scheme of things your problem is really not all that important. I have a four-year old daughter whose entire world is shattered when the head comes off of her Barbie doll. In my world, that is absolutely unimportant.
This is not to say that God doesn't care for us or to trivialize anyone's troubles (believe me, I've lived a HELLISH existence). I care for my daughter, but I'm busy working on things that will REALLY matter as far as I'm concerned. Her Barbie's head, to me, is trivial.
God does not belong to us, for us to command on our terms. Faith is trusting that God has your best interest at heart, even if you don't know what that is.
Someone mentioned in Flower's thread that God must be insecure because he adores being worshipped. I will answer that by saying that as a parent, I can never hear 'I love you' from my children ENOUGH. I adore their kisses and hugs. I love when they tell me I'm the best mommy ever. Does that make me insecure. No, I don't think so. I enjoy their showing of love because of how much I LOVE THEM. If me thanking and praising and loving God makes HIM,HER or IT feel anywhere close to how I feel when my children express their love to me then I will make sure to tell GOD that I love him everyday.
Tiffany
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One Partaker
by Jourles inthe memorial last night was nothing new.
the routine never changes.
two congregations joined together for the night in one building.
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jesussaves
I also know about that crunch! My mom suffered from a nervous breakdown when I was a little girl, and after that, she was convinced that she was 'anointed'. She used to eat the crackers and drink the wine. I remember this sister saying to my mom real sarcastically,
"L____ we've got to go out in service. I've never worked with one of the anointed . <<<<crunch>>>>> LOL! -
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I ran into one of the elders from my JC
by jesussaves inguess what happened to me this past sunday.
i ran into one of the elders that was on my judicial committe.
there was a group of them at ruby tuesday's (restaurant) and they were obviously taking the circuit overseer out for dinner.
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jesussaves
Hi everybody,
Guess what happened to me this past Sunday. I ran into one of the elders that was on my judicial committe. There was a group of them at Ruby Tuesday's (restaurant) and they were obviously taking the Circuit Overseer out for dinner. Bro. So-and-so and his wife looked me dead in my face and did not speak. I am not disfellowshipped, so they had no reason to shun me. Maybe they shunned me because I was with my church family!!!! One of the members of our party was a minister and had on his minister's collar. I thought it was hilarious, although it brought up old memories from my JC meetings. I will say that the elder I ran into was actually the NICE elder of the three. I believe that he is the one who kept me from getting disfellowshipped. He had two daughters near my age who had made the exodus from the JWs about a year before I did. I think that he felt sorry for me, but now I feel sorry for him! Anyhoo....This is my first run in with some JWs in years. I hope they aren't all about to start coming out the woodwork!
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Scriptures JWs Would Prefer to Ignore
by Room 215 inhere are my nominations for scripture jws would like to see go away.
in all cases they're reduced to the ``yes, but'' defense; i.e.
john 14:2-- ``in my father's house are many mansions.".
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jesussaves
How about the first few verses of John 8 (I think..forgive me, I don't have my bible with me at work) the story about the woman who was about to be stoned by the Pharisees, and he told them 'Whichever among you is without sin, cast the first stone' and then when all the little Pharisees ran off in shame, he told the woman to 'Repent and sin no more.' That's it!!! He didn't disfellowship her or publicly reprove her or anything of the sort. I think that JWs argue that those verses are not in the original manuscripts or something like that. That is my fave scripture to bring up when my grandmother wants to talk about how the judicial committee is God's invention. Francois, you beat me to the holy spirit scriptures...my grandmother reverts to her 'well Jehovah has ALWAYS had an organization' argument whenever we get to these.' Does Yoyo believe in a literal hellfire? I would think she does by the way she wields(sp?) that scripture in Isaiah. Now that's quite apostatestolic!
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Where have all the children gone?
by ozziepost inhow did the next line of the peter, paul and mary song go?.
"long time passing".. children in the witness community here in oz seem to be disappearing.. there was a time when each congregation could expect to count new publishers each year from the children growing up in witness families.
say 1 or 2 in an average 100 publisher congregation.
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jesussaves
My baby brother is seventeen. He got baptized a couple of years back. I begged him to reconsider, but my grandmother was really on his back. He told my mom that he's leaving and not coming back once he turns 18. He already celebrates all of the holidays at my house. He has a 'worldly' (I hate that term, but you guys know what I mean) girlfriend and plans on going to college (hooray!). I still wish he had never gotten baptized.
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How many hours are falsely reported?
by badboy inin the january 1 issue of each year, they harp on about how many hours the jws did last year etc etc.. how many hours are possibly falsely reported?.
discuss,please
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jesussaves
Yes, I too made up fake hours on my slip. I felt horribly pressured by all of the other pioneer youths in my cong. I had an after school job, and I rarely went out in service. If I was labeled inactive, I wouldn't have gotten invited to those wild 'theocratic' kids' parties.
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JTs life story
by jesussaves injt, i believe i read your jw experience on the web last night.
i did a search for bethelites and stumbled across it.
so you were one of the jw elite?
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jesussaves
Yes, I'm married to a wonderful man that I met in college. He's been really supportive with me leaving the JWs. He's a minister and it is hilarious watching my family try to convert him. He has an arsenal of Ex-JW material just for them. Once he told an elder that he would study with him just so he could preach to him. It was hilarious.
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JTs life story
by jesussaves injt, i believe i read your jw experience on the web last night.
i did a search for bethelites and stumbled across it.
so you were one of the jw elite?
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jesussaves
My family was probably at the bottom of the totem pole, but when I became a teenager, I befriended some JWs that were on the fast track,and all of a sudden I was going to parties with Bethelites! Some of them I truly miss. When I stopped going to the meetings it was like cold turkey and not one of them ever called to see how I was spiritually or otherwise. I wonder how secure those friendships really were. One thing that always bugged me about the guys I knew at Bethel was that basically being a Bethelite was the only thing that they had going for them, and they still got the cream of the crop girls. I had a good friend that married a Bethelite. She was so pretty and was one of the few people that I knew that had actually gone to a 4 year college and graduated. The guy she married is a total dictator bum that can only get work as a prep cook. Now, there's nothing wrong with being a prep cook, but she was one of those girls used to the good things in life. The last time I saw her she was about 50 pounds heavier and they don't even have any kids yet. She looks unhappy, but she married this brother quickly after having her heart broken by ANOTHER Bethelite (he happened to be my best friend at the time). Anytime I ever said anything about wanting a professional man or an entrepreneur someone would call me materialistic.