Posts by RosePetal

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Elders wife says being upset with pedophiles in the hall being the same as having to eat sauerkraut and wieners.

by life is to short in

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this couple in our hall an elder and his wife gave us a anniversary gift.

it is a wall hanging that says "as for me and my household sister life is to short and hubby will worship jehovah forever.".

i felt i should send her a thank you card even though i hate the gift.

RosePetal

Hi this is RosePetal POLISH THOSE SHOES

STRAIGHTEN THAT TIE

HIDE THE HYPOCRISY

WITH A SMILE AND A LIE

The simple fact is the org. has never cared about individuals only about their reputation if it suits their purpose they wouldn't hesitate to sell you down the river if you question contradict them or speak out they will call it disloyalty and they should know because how many mothers and children have they been disloyal to. They will disfellowship individuals for making human mistakes but they will hide wife beaters and child molesters, and use the congregation money Rank and File contributions to cover up their lies, and do their upsmost to seperate a man from his wifeand family if they have a sniff of so called apostacy. !HYPOCRITES!

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Elders wife says being upset with pedophiles in the hall being the same as having to eat sauerkraut and wieners.

by life is to short in

jw
friends

this couple in our hall an elder and his wife gave us a anniversary gift.

it is a wall hanging that says "as for me and my household sister life is to short and hubby will worship jehovah forever.".

i felt i should send her a thank you card even though i hate the gift.

RosePetal

Hi Lifeisshort this is Mr.Bumble using wifies post page because i'm having difficulties logging on to mine. Your not going mad you are abosolutely correct. Forgiveness and overcoming problems is not at issue here. Elders have a responsibility to treat the flock with tenderness and it is their job to protect mothers and their children. This is just onother case proving that they are more interested in their own reputation than the duty of care they should have for vulnerable members of the congregation. They should not be looking for loopholes in the law because young lives will be damaged as we have seen so many times before . The organisations policy on informing the congregations is flawed and contradictory those living on planet watchtower will still swallow it as just an inconvenience. Treat those obsurd comments with the contempt they deserve. Child molesters do reoffend. I agree with most other comments so far.

MR.Bumble

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Just out and so happy!

by ange2.0 in

i have just gotten out and am free at last!

my brother did so a few years ago and has been such an amazing help to me these last few weeks.

i was raised a jw, disfellowshipped when i was 17, married a non believer and then dragged back in by my family.

RosePetal

Hi and wecome ange2 like you I felt I had wasted 30 years I agree with little sister we can help protect others and the next

generation my daughters future children we can't look back put that behind us and get on with life and enjoy the here and now

and the future.

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metal health problems in the organisation

by looloo in

for "the happiest people on earth" i found so many folk in the cong had depression or suffered with "nerves and axiety" there was one lad who was due to go and "work" in bethel and changed his mind at the last minute and spent nearly all his time on his computer in his bedroom from then on (he must of been on this site !he apparently "went schitsophrenic(dont know how to spell it sorry ) as did his sister and his poor mum was probably the most dedicated dub in the cong but was considered as a bit "bonkers" by all in the cong .

there were 3 elders i know of who had depression and many rank and file , i must admit it did make me question how "happy "being a dub would make me when i was a study and voiced my concerns i was told satan was trying to get them out the truth so they were depressesed or some rubbish like that , but i was also told that people who leave the truth are depressed because they dont have the truth !

you cant have it both ways !

RosePetal

Hi looloo

I have sent you a PM.

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Did you get hit with the "There is nothing better out there" argument?

by lepermessiah in

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i wish i had a dollar for everytime i heard that lately.. "your concerns are very valid, but there is nothing else out there".

"well, its not perfect - but i'm telling you, there is nothing else out there".

"yes, the organization is full of problems, but you have to understand - there is nothing else out there".

RosePetal

Hi leppermessiah Yes my parents used it on me all my life then like olyn moyles ghost I used it on myself and then found myself doing it to my hubby I think we were brainwashed into all using it on each other. All other christian denominations are so demonised as chalam said you wouldn't dare go and try out another church I had been invited by some of my calls who often invited me in to go to their church but i wouldn't have dared you could be disfellowshipped.

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metal health problems in the organisation

by looloo in

for "the happiest people on earth" i found so many folk in the cong had depression or suffered with "nerves and axiety" there was one lad who was due to go and "work" in bethel and changed his mind at the last minute and spent nearly all his time on his computer in his bedroom from then on (he must of been on this site !he apparently "went schitsophrenic(dont know how to spell it sorry ) as did his sister and his poor mum was probably the most dedicated dub in the cong but was considered as a bit "bonkers" by all in the cong .

there were 3 elders i know of who had depression and many rank and file , i must admit it did make me question how "happy "being a dub would make me when i was a study and voiced my concerns i was told satan was trying to get them out the truth so they were depressesed or some rubbish like that , but i was also told that people who leave the truth are depressed because they dont have the truth !

you cant have it both ways !

RosePetal

looloo I am sorry to hear of what you went through especialy with your daughter thats terrible. It was actually reading stories like yours made me realise that there were others going through these things in the org. worldwide and that my experience pailed into nothing in comparison. I was shocked I read some on Yuku. I have sat here and cried over some of them. Your dad was encouraging you not to go back but born ins with JW parents put guilt on. No matter how awful it was and wether from my dad or the congregation my mum would say it is Jehovah your serving let yourself be wronged. They are just imperfect men. Thats why I stuck it out for so long. How are you now?

have you finaly broken free in your mind? Does confedence get better? I would also ask this of anybody as my confidence is still very poor although I have impoved because I did go to college eventually.

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metal health problems in the organisation

by looloo in

for "the happiest people on earth" i found so many folk in the cong had depression or suffered with "nerves and axiety" there was one lad who was due to go and "work" in bethel and changed his mind at the last minute and spent nearly all his time on his computer in his bedroom from then on (he must of been on this site !he apparently "went schitsophrenic(dont know how to spell it sorry ) as did his sister and his poor mum was probably the most dedicated dub in the cong but was considered as a bit "bonkers" by all in the cong .

there were 3 elders i know of who had depression and many rank and file , i must admit it did make me question how "happy "being a dub would make me when i was a study and voiced my concerns i was told satan was trying to get them out the truth so they were depressesed or some rubbish like that , but i was also told that people who leave the truth are depressed because they dont have the truth !

you cant have it both ways !

RosePetal

Hi looloo My hubby has had O.C.D. since he was in his teens he was not a born in but being a JW certainly increased the stress and lead to depression through the years. The elders used to tell him it was lack of faith which made me so angry. I could see it had nothing to do with lack of faith what nonsense. This just put more pressure on us as a family. I suffered with clinical depression I was a born in and this was due to a build up of years of having horrible family problems growing up while being in the cult that expects so much of you and nothing is ever good enough. When I was going through some of my worst times and couldn't keep up so called brothers and sisters from our hall would cross over the street and ignore me. When I did get to meetings which was a struggle they would ignore me and just afew of the brothers and sisters who were struggling themselves would speak to me. Most of the elders and their wives treated me like I was a bit of dirt under their shoe. I have so many things to tell that make me angry I'll leave for onother time. I found that whenever my health improved i would go mad and overdo things try and pioneer and drive hubby mad going overboard just so they would speak to me. Through the years I saw others going through similar experiences. You are always told it is lack of faith and to get on the work more. I remember I was in my twenties during the time I had clinical depression I hadn't managed to go in the service for six months I was so poorly I couldn't eat very much and I was terrified inside of everything it is difficult to explain but going out or to the shop was a nightmare I didn't want to talk to poeple during this time no one came to see us. finaly and elder came round and coldly informed me I had not reported for six months and I was no longer classed as a member of the congregation. I tried to explain that I was poorly and could not cope he said you do not have enough faith you must get to meetings more and go on the service. It was like talking to a brick wall and I just thought where is all this love the org. is supposed to have I cannot see it. I used to cry till my heart broke. it took a while to eventualy get help from doctors and thats another story why.

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Do you prefer to sit on the pew in a church or on the regular Kingdom Hall seat?

by asilentone in

i hate to sit on the pew.

i prefer to sit on the regular kingdom hall seat.

do you think it might be a good subtle reason for some people to convert their religion to jw?

RosePetal

The church I am going to has very comfortable chairs and there is tea and coffee refreshments afterwards, they also provided a two course meal after the alpha course and cake and goodies after other bible discusions at the church. And yeah I don't have to wear a dress.

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Is it my imagination or is there more Apostasy about?

by freddo in

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here in the uk over the last couple of years i hear more about people leaving/being removed due to apostasy?

do you think this is true or is it because my radar is up and listening?.

.

RosePetal

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeees hubby and I are two more.

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CO talk: "Jehovah's Witnesses killed Jesus"

by sd-7 in

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mentioned in his talk last week that the jews, who had the name "jehovah's witnesses" applied to them, killed jesus.

i found that a particularly revealing admission, simply from the way he said it.

"jehovah's witnesses killed jesus," he said.. he went on to explain that the coveted title of "jehovah's witnesses" was taken from the jews.

RosePetal

Hi sd7 I can't cut and paste yet but those last two paragraphs were spot on.