RosePetal

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  JW's Came to the Door

  by pr0ner in

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  boy she didn't know what she was walking into.

  it was a wealthy (she drove a lexus and was very well dressed) middle aged woman with a younger girl.

  she used the typical line this time of year asking if i knew where the origins of christmas came from.

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  most people are fully aware of many elements of christmas being pagan. The tree to most folks is simply a seasonal decoration at this miserable time of year. I do not see anyone bowing down before it and offering incense or sacrifice any more than JW's worshipping pictures of their family in their home. but what i do see is people putting there hand in their pocket and giving of their time to the poor whether or not they are religious. Christains understand more than most of the paradox of christmas and they recognise the Lord was not born on this date but use this time of year to highlight how important Christs birth was for all and to glorify his birth as the heavenly Angels did. yes his birth was celebrated and announced by Angels. Luk 2:8-15.

  JW's do not want to celebrate anything to do with Jesus ,they do not even celebrate the Lords last supper but observe some pagan ritual of passing the bread and wine without partaking, very occultist. and why we are on the subject of paganism and idolatry, who set those old guys up to be worshipped at bethel, not me.

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  CoC is not the holy Grail according to Ren/Debator

  by jookbeard in

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  ren/debator the constant references to this fine work is probably bringing more publicity then ray could have possibly dreamed of, carry on plugging away..

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  That is so true Justin, I hadn't read CoC or any other book, over the years in the organisation my hubby and I were having doubts and many concerns over policies, procedures, and their teachings, their reasonings and constant changes that did not make sense. The governing body tapering down all new light and direction, coming from them and leaving out even their own brothers in Christ , were ringing giant bells with us.

  We were working this out ourselves with personal study of the Bible, when we came on to the forum and read the apologists reasonings and the flawed debates as you say it just confirmed that we were right to have doubts and made us research further and deeper. We have only recently read CoC but we did not need the book to come to the conclusions that we have.

  In fact apologists end up waking up themselves.

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  As a woman in the truth what went through your head when you realized that us sister had to cover our heads?

  by life is to short in

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  ok i was raised in the "truth" but no one ever studied with me.

  my parents were abusive and i got nothing from them or anyone in the "truth" no bible study any attention nothing from anyone.. i read the great teacher book to myself at the age of seven, and when i was in my mid teens i started studying on my own with no help from anyone nor any answers my questions expect to be rebuked if i asked the wrong question so i quit asking it was god's chosen religion after all who was i to question anything.

  i conducted the sort of study and this elder looked at me and said where is your head covering.

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  LITS please check your PMs

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  Update: part 2, elder's counsel to mom to quit "bad association"

  by Coffee House Girl in

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  well because i knew the questions would be the same on saturday as they were friday i was even more prepared.

  my mom has this pattern of repeating the same questions over and over again...she will leave it for a few hours & then she will cycle them over again, but then ask more detail.. so saturday she calls me before i leave for home and now she is backpedalling her story.

  she tells me that the elder's never said that they were going to disfellowship me, they just were counseling her that she should no longer be associating with me because i am bad association and have been seen with "him" (again with the him) and that his car has been seen parked there all the time.

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  Yes well done they cant stop you looking after your mum, you are handling it excellently, you are a good loving daughter and she should be proud of you for being there for her. Shame on them if they try to stop you. I hope your mum sees through and see how unloving this reasoning is.

  Even if you were disfellowshipped they should not interfere with you looking after your mother. Stand your ground.

  GO GO Girl RosePetal
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  These are good people

  by Retrovirus in

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  in my introductory post i told about the jws that have been visiting me at my sil's request.

  at first i spoke with them for her sake, then found i liked them anyway.

  what i didn't like was the literature, especially the stuff trying to disprove evolution.

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  I think it is wrong to assume that someone who is older in years or has a disability or illness cannot cope with waking up to the falseness of the watchtower. There are many on this board older in years and are now helping others to see it. Also there is life after the watchtower, I was born in to the JW belief and spent most of my life believing and trying to recruit others. I have not lost my faith in God or his promises just because I am no longer a JW. I did not leave until my fifties.

  It doesn't matter what age we are, we can make choices, I would not like to think that if I was an elderly person that could not make a choice and be shown the falseness of the watchtower organisation. They are not children. Recently Rick Feron was telling us about the annual meeting they have for ex.JW's I was struck by how many older in years were there giving testimonies, and speaking out to help others.

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  Well, I just finished reading Crisis of Conscience thanks to IssacAustin!

  by Botzwana in

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  i couldn't put it down!

  very informative.

  i agreed with it all.

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  I have personally known of brothers and sisters being disfellowshipped for much less than your sins Botz. and some of them very young. It's also luck of the draw which congregation you are in and the body of elders.

  We have only recently read CoC wish we had read that book when it was first published, we would have woken up sooner and left the org. we were too afraid to read it, if only more JW's could read this book and not let fear stop them.

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  Today was my first time...

  by serenitynow! in

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  buying christmas gifts!

  i decided to participate in the salvation army angel tree program where you buy stuff on kids' wishlists.

  i spent the day in and out of stores trying to find cute things.. i felt really "normal," for probably the first time ever..

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  Thats how we felt last year, it was great to fill shoe boxes with gifts of toys and sweets for children in the third world, and we sent gifts to our local womens refuge our Church are involved in and other various charities. The Church also arranged for acts of kindess. We will be doing the same this year.

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  Jehovahs Witness evaded prison for 25 years due to JW coverup finally jailed

  by James_Slash in

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  you are herenews>localrapist evaded justice for years.

  published on tue dec 07 08:12:05 gmt 2010. a rapist evaded justice for 25 years because jehovahs witnesses did nothing when told about his child sex abuse, a court heard.. anthony burns, aged 54, was confronted with his crimes against a young child in the 1980s but no action was taken by the religious organisation.. burns repeatedly abused a girl as young as nine years old, from 1977 until 1984 when she revealed what had been happening.. burns, of back road, wisbech, in cambridgeshire, denied four charges of indecent assault, attempted rape and rape but was convicted after a trial.

  the abuse took place in the 1970s and early 1980s in eastbourne and northamptonshire.

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  I wish that Barbara Anderson would do another TV programme again to highlight this with silent lambs. It was watching that TV coverage that shocked me and was the straw that broke the camels back. More JW's need to be aware of silent lambs and Barbara Andersons story, I am sure many have not even heard of her.

  The victims voices need to be heard. These poor children, many adults are suffering because of what happened to them as children in the organisation because of their stupid policies and cover ups. When I watched that programme it was the last time I went to a kingdom hall meeting.

  I am so sorry looloo for what your daughter went through, and the disgusting way it was handled. It was brave of her to go to court because she was thinking of protecting other innocent children. I hope others will do the same and not be afraid to expose and speak out.
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  Please read and sign ... Grace had a scarey fall ...

  by wannabefree in

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  big hug for you!

  i am glad you are okay.

  you are a strong woman.. so sorry grace.

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  Oh Grace how scary, what a shock for you the snow and ice are so dangerous please take care. I am glad that you are ok . Try and wait until you have friends or relatives that can help you. I know it's a pain but at times like this you need to be so careful.

  Hope you soon feel better. Sending love and Hugs [[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] RosePetal
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  Should be My baby (not bab), of course! :)

  by Newborn in

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  this is my darling cat java!

  (this is obviously a cat thread so if you're not a cat lover you can move on to the next post).

  java is an indoor cat.

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  This is a pic of my beautiful cat Jade, i don't know if it's worked though, can you see it?