Hi bob Welcome to the forum so glad you were able to awaken. I am sending you a Private Message.
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by bobfleur inhello everyone, my name is bob and i am a recovering jehovah's witness.
i have a beautiful wife and four equally beautiful children.
my major malfunction is that i am very much a believer and as most here would agree, some major teachings do not line up in harmony with scripture.. god used the help of a pastor friend of mine and together we were able to show my wife from the bible certain biblical truths do not line up with "the truth".
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Another thread to my story
by MrFreeze inthis is a story that is very hard for me to tell.
as a matter of fact, this is really one of the only times i've told this story.
a few years back, i met a girl while at the local community college.
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I am so sorry for this terrible tragic loss you suffered. The pain and the grief must have been unbearable, only time can heal the grief and pain. Be comforted by her sisters words when you tried to blame yourself. Her sister knew how deep the depression went. You were not to blame.
She was in such a state of depression that she misjudged you and thought you didn't care. If she had been well as oz said she would probably have shrugged it off. So don't keep blaming yourself you were a victim of circumstances as so many on here are. I am so glad you came here and told us your story so we can share this with you. There is so much support here, so don't stop talking to us about how you are feeling.
All the best RosePetal
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I love long stories.
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Please help me with two things:
by trebor inplease help me with two things:.
from the atheist, how do you explain feelings/emotions?
additionally: where do they originate?
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Hi syl I am so glad you're back. Love you sis.
RosePetal
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Yes, the WTBTS "Power" Really IS Powerful, More Than Most Imagine...
by AGuest infor they, alone, have apparently been able to do for some what no other religion, teaching, philosophy, belief, or faith, was able to do: turn some completely away from the most holy one of israel, jah of armies.
may you all have peace.... of course, such ones may want to attribute their "change of heart" to something they call "atheism", but that really isn't the truth.
atheism didn't call them; atheism was simply the final "oasis" to which they fled when the wtbts proved itself to be a "waterless region"... a wasteland... desolate.
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Hi Shelby can I join in everything that OUTLAW said except that as you know I AM Christian and share your beliefs.
Lets face it were in the watchtower we were all crazy to think they could be Gods channel.
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What's the biggest lie/rumor that has ever been told about YOU?
by VampireDCLXV inmost of us here know what a hypocritical, backstabbing bunch of gossips many of the jw's tend to be.
far too often, a jw wont tell you to your face what's eating them, but they'll sure tell others.
when i started waking up (the second time around) this made me very paranoid.
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To Q. I am glad you found your peace but as regard to ratting out your fellow brothers and sisters might imply that they have done something which might merit disciplinary action from the JW's point of view, however the point I was really trying to make it is the unproven slander and particularly the untrue slander that has destroyed lives. [ The creating of something that is'nt there] or putting two together and making six, through whatever motive they have for doing so.
I am not suggesting for one ,moment that this is unique to JW's or to any other religious faith or society in general and neither am I talking about just the general imperfection of individuals and a slip of the tongue I am talking about a people who believe that they are in the most moral and respectable and righteous organisation in the whole world who are the perpetrators 'James 3 v 6 -7 The tongue is also a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is self set on fire by hell. All kinds of animals, birds , reptiles, and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil full of deadly poison. ' NIV.
I don't think James is suggesting that we make excuses for our behaviour just due to imperfection, but carries on in verse 9&10 ' With the tongue we praise our Lord and father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in Gods likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. The point made is this 'MY BROTHERS THIS SHOULD NOT BE' NIV.
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What's the biggest lie/rumor that has ever been told about YOU?
by VampireDCLXV inmost of us here know what a hypocritical, backstabbing bunch of gossips many of the jw's tend to be.
far too often, a jw wont tell you to your face what's eating them, but they'll sure tell others.
when i started waking up (the second time around) this made me very paranoid.
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Thank you Vampire for your reply we can all look back and laugh at the silly things that have happened to us and misunderstandings. Even have a laugh at the silly procedures that have been implemented by the GB re dress codes do's and dont's etc. inconsistant traditions of each local congregations.
But for many it can be a very sensitive matter when the subject of gossip and slander is brought up, which has ruined hard earned reputations building up a respectable name with friends and neighbours, to have it falsely slandered and character assassinated when people have invested so much in what they thought was the truth. The irony of it being that so called fellow christian friends are so easily willing to believe any form of gossip or slander dispite any long standing relationship they may have with them.
The even greater irony of it all is the watchtower and awake magazines have consistantly and proudly highlighted in the articles to discourage idle gossipe and vindictive slander but the greatest irony of it all is that the biggest perpetrators of this is elders their wives their children and the GB and their cronies. Had me rant.
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What's the biggest lie/rumor that has ever been told about YOU?
by VampireDCLXV inmost of us here know what a hypocritical, backstabbing bunch of gossips many of the jw's tend to be.
far too often, a jw wont tell you to your face what's eating them, but they'll sure tell others.
when i started waking up (the second time around) this made me very paranoid.
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And to add a comment to vampire so many of us have been hurt and dammaged through rumour gossip and lies. It is no jokeing matter or juicy bit of fun to talk about. Even now I find it difficult to talk about some of the things that have happened to me and my family through gossip and spite.
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What's the biggest lie/rumor that has ever been told about YOU?
by VampireDCLXV inmost of us here know what a hypocritical, backstabbing bunch of gossips many of the jw's tend to be.
far too often, a jw wont tell you to your face what's eating them, but they'll sure tell others.
when i started waking up (the second time around) this made me very paranoid.
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To Q. HaHaHa Witnesses aren't in your opinion any more gossipy than most people???????????? After 54yrs born in and moving around different congregations over the years in my [experience] [ NOT OPINION] the gossip was ripe. I have seen upteen peoples lives ruined including my own over spiteful gossip and lies.
The Borg. is a breeding a ground for it. Because of the stifling structure of the organsation people judge each other far more harshly than people in the ''world''. There is more rivalry and competition.
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My 'cross to bear' so to speak
by Aussie Oz innothing in life is free... not even freedom.
it's the weekend for my kids to come down and it seems dear old dad just aint that important anymore.... son who now has his licence has left school to work (i found out on facebook) and seems to be too busy, daughter has a party (with j dubs) she wants to go to saturday night.
of course the mother is delighted by this...as they are a two hour drive away it just stuffs up the whole weekend really.
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Hi Oz Sorry to hear your feeling down, Your kids are growing up and doing their own thing lets hope they keep doing their own thing. Just don't stop being there for them, keep up that contact no matter what, showing that you care and love them unconditionaly, That means more to kids than anything, Thats what my daughter tells me.
I so agree with cognizant dissidant she's on the ball. RosePetal