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Podobear
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Hello
by Chariklo ini am new to this site, just finding my way around.. i've been studying with jw's for about 15 months.
i'm an unbaptised publisher, and until recently never missed a meeting, have been out "on the service" quite a lot.
i've been having difficulties with one of the jw's studying with me and something happened which was just unacceptable.
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@AnnOMaly: Thanks Ann... I was angling at the supposition of those who use the expression NT to invalidate the OT... the Covenant, as you quite rightly point out was fulfilled in Christ... but the benefits and blessings from the Old Covenant will likewise CONTINUE to be fulfilled through the New Covenant in Christ. This extends to the promises given about the Earth as well as what takes place in Heaven.
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Your best one sentence JW comeback contest
by moshe ini am looking for your best jw comeback- the kind that makes a jw's jaw drop.
ok, even two pithy sentences will do.. here's one i have used before on jws,.
moshe: " do you know what an oxymoron is?
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In reply to an 89 year old patient who told me why he left Methodism to become a JW: "Jehovah freed me from the awful fear of hell fire, as taught by the church..."
My reply: "I had a similar feeling about a kiddie on his trike, falling down an earthquake trench, with his mother screaming as her house burned... in the book, Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained."
Same meat different gravy.
The treatment room went awfully silent.
p.s. You did ask for one sentence Moshe.
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Hello
by Chariklo ini am new to this site, just finding my way around.. i've been studying with jw's for about 15 months.
i'm an unbaptised publisher, and until recently never missed a meeting, have been out "on the service" quite a lot.
i've been having difficulties with one of the jw's studying with me and something happened which was just unacceptable.
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@jgnat: Love the perception!
@godrulz: I have just finished watching Sunday morning Question Time, here in the UK; Is Religion Relevant today? The audience was youthful... devoid of old anoraks, like me.
The JW's were mentioned first by an Atheist youth... the usual disdain over the JW interpretation on the "Blood Issue". A fair few Born Agains trying to bolster their corner. Moderate Muslims commenting on their faith.
The presenter was at pains to point out the "Hate Rhetoric" of the insular viewpoints of the Born Again Christians.. and someone was able to speak positively of the fresh, outlooking attitudes of the moder Pentecostal movement. The discussion was varied, if a little rudderless at times.
What I get from your posts is this same Born Again attitude of picking at the splinter in the eyes of others, whilst you have an imposing timber in your own eye!
As jgnat so wisely says: God owns ALL the hills, NOT YOU. There are millions of healthy sheep graizing quite nicely on the spiritual food they are receiving.... making a choice daily... following the Good Shepherd where he leads them to pasture.
There are very many good points about JW's too. Why not hightlight them too... there are very many I assure you.
The Christian Greek Scriptures do not obliterate the Hebrew Scriptures... both sit hand in glove.. if you want use a word call it the Christian Testament. With the renting of the curtain in the temple, the special relationship ended with earthly Israel and is fulfilled in Christ Jesus. It is not a NEW TESTAMENT, as you wrongly describe. It is a fulfilment of prophecy given to the Hebrews. There is a New Heavens and a New Earth awaiting according to his promise. Not all Christians will serve along with Christ in heaven, many will benefit from that rule elsewhere.
That is the complete and golden thread of the gospel. I am sure you must agree.
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No Rapture But JW's Shown 2 B The True Idiots
by Pig inloved this article in australia.
five other end-of-world predictions: .
1. followers of william miller believed the world would end on october 22, 1844.. 2.the jehovah's witness religion has predicted the end of the world in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994.. 3. charles wesley, founder of the methodist church, predicted the world would end in 1794.. 4. famous forecaster nostradamus predicted doomsday would happen in july 1999.. 5. english mystic joanna southcott predicted the world would end on october 19, 1814, when she gave birth to the messiah.. .
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Chanel 4 (UK) had a rather reticent Anglican bishop (from Buckingham) being interviewed just prior to 6pm BST. He was very cagey as he explained 1 Thessalonians 4.
I am not sure of the convictions of the (Asian looking) male interviewer. Perhaps I detected a little non-Christian dis belief in his wry smile... but anyway
The news broadcast ended with him being beamed out in shafts of light and leaving his suit behind. Bravo, to the guy who cashed in and earned an instant 20K on abandoned pet insurance!
Soberly, we are left with speculations over 1st Century speculation and teaching on the matter... and I guess all those who got our of Jerusalem in AD66 were very grateful....
Darn Elders, always interfering
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Hello
by Chariklo ini am new to this site, just finding my way around.. i've been studying with jw's for about 15 months.
i'm an unbaptised publisher, and until recently never missed a meeting, have been out "on the service" quite a lot.
i've been having difficulties with one of the jw's studying with me and something happened which was just unacceptable.
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Godrulz: you really are a nasty piece of work... There is one very positive thing I learnt as a JW.. Shake the dust off your feet, and take your peace with you.
I cannot believe the part truths and direct lies you print about the JW's! You do nothing but punch at others. What is the matter with you? Are you here to establish Truth and Fact or just to rant about your favourite obsession?... The JW bashing campaign.
There are very many Sterling people amongst JW's... as there are in other Church groups.
God's sheep graize on many hills... don't spray your Spiritual grass with Paraquat!
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Have you heard this?
by AK - Jeff in"well, i understand your frustration with religion/god/bible/christianity/etc.
after all you had been raised in a 'false' religion.
too bad you have turned your back on religion/god/bible/christianity/etc, and are unable to see the 'real truth' of religion/god/bible/christianity/etc due to your jaded view now!".
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None so blind as those who will not see... None so deaf as those who will not hear.
I have the same nonplussed spirit, Jeff
All the best
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Life after death
by truthseeker ineveryone has different views about life after death and whether or not it is a possibility.. as jehovah's witnesses, we were always taught that there is no life after death, that this is the only life we have now and that the wages of sin is death.. .
what are your views on life after death?.
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Godrulz: I do not hold to any religious affiliation. However, I do describe myself as a Spiritual man. On the dawn of April 25th as the Kestrels soared and the sun rose over Mount Sinai, I kissed my hand and held it to the rock and placed my Mother in the loving care of our Creator. I had conducted a hybrid service for a wonderful lady who was robbed of faith at the age of 15. At that time she witnessed her 4 1/2 year old sister severed in half by an army truck returning from the battle of Dunkirk.
She was nominally Church of England but died an Atheist.
What hope is there for her?
You have not directed me to any "Church" or "Organisation" that comes anywhere near your view of Life after Death... neither do you attempt to define "Paradise" as promised to the Evildoer at the right hand side of the impaled Jesus.
Jesus is NOT the Yahweh of the OT. There is no OT, just the Hebrew Scriptures. The canon of the Bible is a continued theme, not to be split into Old and New.
I was comfortable sitting with Muslims and all sorts of Christians as well as the skeptical on Sinai.. for in the Middle East... everyone views Sinai as the sacred place where it all began.. there is Universal agreement.
Let God decide our destiny.
My mother is in his loving hands.... not tormented in a lake of fire. How cruel a concept.
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Life after death
by truthseeker ineveryone has different views about life after death and whether or not it is a possibility.. as jehovah's witnesses, we were always taught that there is no life after death, that this is the only life we have now and that the wages of sin is death.. .
what are your views on life after death?.
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Bravo Judge: I await a reply from Godrulz.. since he/she claims to know the Christian perspective. Over to Godrulz
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Life after death
by truthseeker ineveryone has different views about life after death and whether or not it is a possibility.. as jehovah's witnesses, we were always taught that there is no life after death, that this is the only life we have now and that the wages of sin is death.. .
what are your views on life after death?.
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I am delighted that you acknowledge that humans have the capacity to live forever... which branch of Christianity do you suggest I research next? It is rare for a "Christian" to admit anything other that a one way ticket to heaven.
Can you expand your understanding of Life After Death a bit more.
I have just been to the top of Mount Sinai, with a mixed group of believers and non believers. At the crack of dawn on April 25th, I kissed my hand and put it on the rock face and said of my Mother: "She is all yours now. Look after her".
Whatever her destiny, I have faith that I will see her again. She was Church of England, going on Atheist. Where does she stand?
All the best