Posts by Berengaria

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Why are Republican's so consistantly dishonest?

by Coded Logic in

it hasn't gone unnoticed that the republicans who are saying, "we need to get to the bottom of the obama wiretapping" and "let's investigate this" - are the same people, when it comes to trump's russian ties, who are saying, "we shouldn't look at this at all - it's just a bunch of lies and hype.".

no evidence whatsoever for claims about obama need a congressional investigation.

but mountains of evidence about trump with more coming out everyday can be swept under the rug.

Berengaria

I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread, so excuse me if I'm stepping on another commenter.

I believe it's because they currently work for the ultra rich and corporations. This was not always so, but it most certainly is now. They answer to no one, and they have their constituents utterly in the fold. There are buzz words and tones, and boom off they go. But actually it's always about funneling more to the top. The Democrats are essentially everyone else. Not nearly as cohesive. Not nearly so monied. The GOP lie, because they can. Only the rank and file can demand honesty, and they won't because they've been groomed to hate "the other" and buy into the narrative.

They are so consistently dishonest because it works.

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Why is Trump so effective???

by Coded Logic in

i think trump is an absolute idiot.

his tactics, however, are undeniably effective.

thought i'd just put together a short list of some of the things he does.

Berengaria

"And what would you base that on? Forget Trump for a second, a lot of the nonsense in place that he is using or abusing was put there by the "Giver" American left. I think everyone is terrified of Trump for breaking down government not increasing its overreach. I do believe many want to live in that controlled "utopia" where harm is reduced because people just can't be trusted. Not me".

Are you keeping up with current events? This administration is exactly overreaching. He is not breaking down government, and frankly anyone who says I want a job in government so I can break it down is selling snake oil. You may not realize, but the government is actually supposed to by employed by we the people, and would be if everyone was informed and engaged. What's wrong with giving? We are the boss. The only difference between right and left, is that the right gives to the top, and the left works to give to the people. Since Reagan they've convinced those on the right to work against their own interests, and for the actual elite. The top one or point one percent.

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Why is Trump so effective???

by Coded Logic in

i think trump is an absolute idiot.

his tactics, however, are undeniably effective.

thought i'd just put together a short list of some of the things he does.

Berengaria

Trump has been so effective, because he appeals to baseness. To hate and nastiness. We've been steadily shaming such crude base behavior over the last many decades. But with this ass, that baseness has been legitimized and given permission. It's as though a Neanderthal grabbed the mic, and all of the half evolved types have suddenly been brought to the surface again. The pendulum will swing back, evolution will continue. I just hope it's in my lifetime.

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Do You Trust The News Media?

by minimus in

jw
friends

obviously, trump doesn't.

but do you?

do you think that they are generally fair, unbiased and honest?.

Berengaria

It never fails to amaze me that so many folks who lived their lives in a cult being BSed, are so ready to embrace spoon fed information. Why would any one source be good enough? And how in the heck could anyone base an opinion on the verified lies of the likes of Fox News, Breitbart, Infowars etc. etc.? None of this stuff is hard to fact check, unless the point is that it confirms your own bias and you are unwilling to look at facts.

But why not discuss specifics Min? Why just say do you trust the news media? How about an actual issue that we can present facts and figures for? Or are you afraid to delve? Might prove ya wrong?

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Hello

by snowbird in

jw
friends

just want to say hello.. trying to master my new tablet given to me by my grandson.. yeah, i am bragging.. lol.. sylvia.

Berengaria

Hey Sylvia! Just recently checking in myself. Good to see you!

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What is the basis for advising “Don’t pursue higher studies”?

by venus in

two elders who visited my friend last week encouraged her not to pursue higher studies.

it seems they are dishing out the same old stuff: “the end is imminent, and this is the time to do more in the service; hence don’t waste your resources on higher studies.”.

i wonder whether there was some official communiqué (something that is sent out recently like letter to the elders, or kingdom ministry article …).

Berengaria

An oldie but a goodie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R4f9ygxDbk

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Poll - Will you accept blood?

by OrphanCrow in

i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.

*oops...hang on here...i have to make a new poll...this one lets you vote more than once.

i will post the new one .

Berengaria

Hello OC, here is my own experience from a few years ago

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/242488/looks-like-have-officially-disassociated-myself

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What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

Berengaria

Sorry Min, I don't remember the conversation. I do find it rather ironic that you are referring to political groupies. You being a Republican and a Trump supporter who chooses to stick your fingers in your ears to all but positive news about your hero.

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What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

Berengaria

"Also worth noting that some details of the dossier have now been corroborated..."

Indeed. I was going to link to some news articles on that very subject (also the missing ex MI6 and his suspected collaborator in Russia who was found dead in the back seat of his car a likely victim of the Kremlin). But..........it will change no ones mind, even IF they actually bothered to read.

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What is your opinion of the news media?

by minimus in

to me they have an agenda and they really don't care about professional journalism.

most are untrustworthy and that's a shame.

Berengaria

"That's fanning the flames Outlaw. They advertised it . A good journalist would check the source rather than report on unsubstantiated error. Once again, if I said Outlaw has urinated with hookers on the bed that Obama slept in and it was OBVIOUSLY UNTRUE, and all CNN did was simply report to the world these unsubstantiated reports,pardon the pun but I think you would be pissed"

CNN did not advertise. They reported on Trump receiving a synopsis of memos that were circulating in Congress and the intelligence community. They said several times they would not give the details because they could not be corroborated by independent sources. This is not fake news. It is journalism. It's the Free Press spoken of in the First Amendment. It's up to us to be discerning about what we believe. Trump and the GOP have been poisoning the well for a very long time, and you are falling for it. You have now decided the only information that you will consider is only information that is complimentary to Trump. How do you expect to get to the truth like that??