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I found out a JW friend of mine has an addiction to torturing animals!
by Vienna Angelika inlast night i found out a close jw friend of mine takes delight in watching animal torture.
i am an animal lover, and i dont know what to think.
i dont want to end our friendship because this friend has been very accepting of me.
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Hey Gypsy Sam, what are you reading?
by Berengaria ini'm about to start either a book of dashiell hammett short stories, or "farewell my lovely" by raymond chandler.
just finished "a conspiracy of paper", by david liss.
i am loving that author.
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Berengaria
Well, you might think about putting something purely fun in there for balance
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Hey Gypsy Sam, what are you reading?
by Berengaria ini'm about to start either a book of dashiell hammett short stories, or "farewell my lovely" by raymond chandler.
just finished "a conspiracy of paper", by david liss.
i am loving that author.
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Berengaria
I'm about to start either a book of Dashiell Hammett short stories, or "Farewell My Lovely" by Raymond Chandler. Just finished "A Conspiracy of Paper", by David Liss. I am LOVING that author.
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What`s your favorite dinner WINE
by OUTLAW inred or white,domestic or imported,a good wine can really accent a fine meal.one of my favorite red wine`s is a bordeaux from france,b&g 1725.inspired by the barton&guestier tradition which dates back to 1725 in boudeaux,fondation 1725 is a dry fruity wine with a deep garnet colour and rich,lasting aromas.merlot and cabernet sauvignon grapes confer strong flavours of black currant,violet and spices.it is excellent with red meats,poultry and cheeses.i also like to use it for deglazing when making gravies or sauces.enjoy!!
outlaw.
the golden rule:the people with the gold, make the rule`s!
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Berengaria
Tonight we had Salmon Alfredo, steamed spinach with garlic and olive oil, and a lovely Chardonnay. I am not a Chardonnay fan, but this was crisp and worked well with the creaminess of the Alfredo.
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A Woman Jumps Into HE Pool While Jehovah's Witnesses were baptizing new converts
by Scott77 inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4bq0akfvxo what do you think?
could this have been a mental health issue?
may be she was excited?
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Berengaria
Oh hell, we should all hit the next one and head for the pool! Woooooot!
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Stories that make me cry
by Berengaria infound, violin that was played as titanic sunk: instrument belonged to heroic band leader, tests confirmviolin belonging to wallace hartley expected to fetch six-figure sum .
band on titanic famously played 'nearer my god to thee' as it sunk.
violin has two splits in its woodwork caused by moisture damage.
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Berengaria
Found, violin that was played as Titanic sunk: Instrument belonged to heroic band leader, tests confirm
- Violin belonging to Wallace Hartley expected to fetch six-figure sum
- Band on Titanic famously played 'Nearer my God to thee' as it sunk
- Violin has two splits in its woodwork caused by moisture damage
By Luke Salkeld
PUBLISHED: 06:16 EST, 14 March 2013 | UPDATED: 20:01 EST, 14 March 2013
Memories: More than 100 years after Titanic sank, this violin has been confirmed as the one that played as the ship went down
As the Titanic sank, the band famously played on.
And more than 100 years after the tragedy, the violin owned by the band leader has been confirmed as a survivor.
The instrument used by Wallace Hartley was thought by some to have been lost in the Atlantic in the 1912 disaster.
But in 2006 the son of an amateur musician found it in an attic, complete with a silver plate showing its provenance.
After seven years of testing, costing tens of thousands of pounds, the water-stained violin has now been proven to be the one played by Hartley.
Within minutes of the Titanic striking an iceberg on April 14, 1912, the 24-year-old was instructed to assemble the band and play music in order to maintain calm. The eight musicians gallantly performed on the deck while passengers lined up for the lifeboats.
The band carried on until the bitter end, famously playing the hymn Nearer, My God, To Thee.
Hartley and the other band members perished along with 1,500 passengers and crew when the vessel sank at 2.20am on April 15.
The rosewood violin is incredibly well-preserved despite its age and it being exposed to the sea.
There are two long cracks on its body that are said to have been opened up by moisture damage. A corroded engraved silver plate screwed on to the base of the violin also helped provide scientists with key proof of its authenticity.
While scientists spent seven years studying the violin, specialist Titanic auctioneers Henry Aldridge and Son and a biographer of Wallace Hartley meticulously researched the story behind it to discover the truth.
Their research found that Hartley appeared to have strapped around him his leather valise – luggage case – in which he placed his violin moments before the sinking.
One theory is the bag would have aided his buoyancy in the water. The case and Hartley’s body were recovered together.
The musician’s fiancee Maria Robinson had given the violin to her sweetheart in 1910 to mark their engagement and had it engraved: ‘For Wallace on the occasion of our engagement from Maria.’
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After the sinking it was returned to her with other personal effects. Hartley’s body was buried in his home town of Colne in Lancashire. Miss Robinson never married and died from cancer in 1939, aged 59, at her home in Bridlington, East Yorkshire. The violin found its way to its current owner after it was given to a member of the Bridlington Salvation Army.
The violin, said to be worth a six-figure sum, will go on display in Belfast, where the Titanic was built, at the end of this month.
Auctioneer Andrew Aldridge said: ‘It is the most important artefact relating to the Titanic to emerge and probably the most valuable.’
The violin belonged to Wallace Hartley (left) who was found with it in its box days after the ship went down. A note was also found in the diary of Maria Robinson (right), Hartley's grieving fiancée
The violin and case discovered with Wallace's body 10 days after the disaster were water damaged
Negotiations are also under way to exhibit it in museums around the world including America. It is likely to be auctioned off in the future.
Hartley, and the other seven band members, perished along with 1,500 passengers and crew when the luxurious vessel sank at 2.20am on April 15.
After his body was recovered by the ship the Mackay Bennett 10 days later, the violin wasn't listed by officials among the inventory of items found in his possession.
A newspaper report later stated that Hartley was found fully dressed and with the instrument strapped to his body.
The conflicting accounts gave way to the theory that either the violin simply floated off in the Atlantic or was stolen by somebody involved with handling the bodies.
Two cracks from the f-holes to the base of the violin (right) show the damage suffered by the instrument, which was owned by Wallace Hartley (left), because of the sea water
While scientists spent seven years studying the violin, specialist Titanic auctioneers, Henry Aldridge and Son, and a biographer on Wallace Hartley, meticulously researched the story behind it to discover the truth.
Their research appears to show that Hartley actually strapped around him his large leather valise - luggage case - in which he placed his violin moments before the sinking.
One theory is that the bag and wooden item would have aided his bouyancy in the water.
They also found the transcript of a telegram dated July 19, 1912 in the diary of Hartley's grieving fiancée, Maria Robinson, to the Provincial Secretary of Nova Scotia.
It reads: 'I would be most grateful if you could convey my heartfelt thanks to all who have made possible the return of my late fiance's violin.'
Miss Robinson had given it to Hartley in 1910 to mark their engagement and had it engraved accordingly.
She had requested its return because of the emotional connection with him.
Hartley's personal effects including his silver cigarette case and a gold signet ring were returned to his his father, Albion Hartley.
An inscription on the violin (pictured with other artefacts from his life) suggests it was a gift from his fiancée, Maria Robinson
Mr Hartley Snr later gave these items to Miss Robinson, who never married.
She kept the jewellery and violin in the leather case as a shrine to her late fiance. She died from stomach cancer in 1939 aged 59 at her home in Bridlington, East Yorkshire.
In dealing with her estate, her sister, Margaret, found Hartley's leather valise that had his initials of 'WHH' on and the violin inside.
She gave the bag to the Bridlington Salvation Army and told its leader, a Major Renwick, about the instrument's association with Titanic.
The research shows Maj Renwick in turn gave the valise to one of his members, a local music and violin teacher.
In the early 1940s, the current owner's mother was a member of the Womens' Auxiliary Air Force stationed at Bridlington.
She met the music teacher who later dispatched the valise and violin to her.
A covering letter that has been found states: 'Major Renwick thought I would be best placed to make use of the violin but I found it virtually unplayable, doubtless due to its eventful life.'
The unnamed owner inherited the valise and its contents, including the violin and jewellery, years later and contacted Henry Aldridge and Son of Devizes, Wilts.
A letter to Hartley from his mother was also found on his body when he was pulled from the sea
Maria Robinson sent a letter of thanks after the violin was returned to her with Hartley's other personal items
They took the violin to the Government's Forensic Science Service in Chepstow which concluded the 'corrosion deposits' on it were 'considered compatible with immersion in sea water.'
An eminent silver expert on the council for the Gemological Association of Great Britain studied the plate on the base of the violin.
He confirmed the plate was an original fixture on the violin and the engraving was contemporary with the hallmarks on the panel that were made in 1910.
Andrew Aldridge, of Henry Aldridge and Son, said: 'When we first saw the violin we had to keep a lid on our excitement because it was almost as if it was too good to be true.
'The silver fish plate on the violin along with the other items it was with, such as the leather case with Hartley's initials on, his jewellery and covering letter to the owner's late mother, suggested it was either authentic or an extremely elaborate hoax up there with the Hitler Diaries.
'We knew we would have to look into it and it couldn't be rushed. Everything needed to be researched properly and the correct experts had to be commissioned.
'We have spent the last seven years gathering the evidence together and have now reached the stage where we can say that beyond reasonable doubt this was Wallace Hartley's violin on the Titanic.
'One of the most compelling pieces of evidence is the engraved plate which states 'For Wallace on the occasion of our engagement from Maria.'
For Wallace: The loving message left on a silver plate attached to the tail piece of the violin
'This not only gives us immediate provenance but it has also been shown that the engraving on it was contemporaneous with the 1910 hallmarking.
'It also goes some way to explain why Maria Robinson wanted the violin back and why Hartley took it with him into the water.
'It is the most important artefact relating to the Titanic to ever emerge and probably the most valuable.
'In all the books and films made about the Titanic, Wallace Hartley is always featured as playing this violin until the end.
'We now know that minutes before the end he placed his beloved violin in this hard-wearing travelling case.
'The bag rested on top of his lifejacket and would have largely been kept out of the water. A letter from his mother was found in his breast pocket and that suffered hardly any water damage.'
Craig Sopin, 55, a lawyer from Philadelphia, owns one of the world's largest collections of Titanic memorabilia.
A locket belonging to Maria Robinson containing a picture of her fiancé
Titanic pictured as she left Southampton in April 1912 on her doomed maiden voyage
He said: 'The research has shown that this is something that I would like to have in my collection, which means I believe it to be 100 per cent genuine.
'I am satisfied that is the violin that was on the deck of the Titanic. Popular belief is that the violin was lost or ferreted away but sometimes miracles happen and it has here.
'As far as Titanic memorabilia is concerned it is the most important piece that has ever come up and that includes artefacts recovered from the seabed such as the crow's nest bell.'
Hartley, who died aged 34, was from Colne, Lancashire, but later lived in Huddersfield and Dewsbury.
He was a musician on board the RMS Mauretania and the RMS Lusitania before joining the Titanic at Southampton in 1912.
Author and Wallace Hartley expert, Christian Tennyson-Ekeburg has worked alongside Henry Aldridge and Son on the research and has written a new biography on the bandmaster called 'Nearer, My God, To Thee.'
He said that Hartley carried his violin and bow in a regular case but chose to place the instrument in his valise before the sinking. The bow was too long for the case which is why it was not found in it when his body was recovered.
Some items of Hartley's jewellery, including the cigarette case, will be sold at auction in Devizes next month while the violin will be exhibited
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2293232/Water-stained-violin-proven-played-brave-bandmaster-Titanic-sank.html#ixzz2NfLDFiqw
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Berengaria
LOL ST, look at the sideburns on that guy!
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What`s your favorite dinner WINE
by OUTLAW inred or white,domestic or imported,a good wine can really accent a fine meal.one of my favorite red wine`s is a bordeaux from france,b&g 1725.inspired by the barton&guestier tradition which dates back to 1725 in boudeaux,fondation 1725 is a dry fruity wine with a deep garnet colour and rich,lasting aromas.merlot and cabernet sauvignon grapes confer strong flavours of black currant,violet and spices.it is excellent with red meats,poultry and cheeses.i also like to use it for deglazing when making gravies or sauces.enjoy!!
outlaw.
the golden rule:the people with the gold, make the rule`s!
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Berengaria
Hey Sam! There is usually a what are you reading type of thread every few months. Start one!!
Oh and the wine depends on the food.
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This Year Will Bring The End (T.F.D.S.) Estephan
by Este ini witnessed the cleansing of the heavens in the year 2004, like the birth pains of a women, or nine years........ an increase of lawlessness, the economic downfall, the trials and tribulations of the faithful and discreet are being fulfilled as we speak.......prepare for the return of jesus christ........and every eye shall see him........ the slave of jah and of christ....... estephan.
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Berengaria
Hey Estephan!! How have you been?
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"Signs Of An Emerging Police State" ?
by metatron inhttp://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/1-signs-of-an-emerging-police-state/.
obviously, this is a matter of subjective judgement - but that doesn't make it any less important.
it's something that has depressed me increasingly since 9/11 happened.. the good part is: i think we just hit a tipping point, a turnaround.. i think rand paul's filibuster crystallized a growing counter response to the loss of freedom in the us - and the western world.
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