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  Feeling sad over a wasted life in watchtower

  by wannaexit in

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  it's been 12 years since i first read ray franz's books and the scales came off my eyes.

  by that time i was in my forties.. since 2002 i went back to school and have worked with 3 very professional organizations.

  but my biological clock is ticking away and while my peers are looking forward to retirement, i am only beginning.

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  I woke up in my late 30s but I was a "weak publisher" for at least 10 years before that. I had worked full time since I was 22 and my wife convinced me we should buy a house when we were in our mid 20's.

  I did miss out though on a lot of hobbies that I enjoy all those years because of the shame and guilt that the Jws laid upon me.

  although we still attend we are career oriented and put our own financial future ahead of the watchtowers.

  if I could go back would I do it differently. For sure! But i can't go back so I just have to live each day and not make the same mistakes I made when I was younger.
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  Anyone know of df'ing for taking a br. to Court (esp. if Cdn)?

  by berrygerry in

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  2. beliefs

  most jw's have been told that taking a fellow jw to court is wrong.. the shepherd book uses wts speak: "if an individual ignores god's word on this matter, it may affect his congregation privileges.

  " (italics theirs.).

  the following are from an interesting case in canada ( link ):.

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  That's why it is best not to do business with a fellow jehovahs witness
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  Didn't the Governing Body tell us Israel is safe?

  by kneehighmiah in

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  i'm sure most people heard about this story that broke yesterday.. http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/19/world/meast/jerusalem-violence/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

  of couse the governing body would never encourage the brothers to go to unsafe areas like detroit or israel.

  sadly the brothers would believe it if the governing body told them drinking cyanide was safe.. .

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  hoser

  I wonder if any of the governing body are going to take the lead in the preaching?
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  Why do self-righteous hypocritical people ...

  by hoser in

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  why is it that people who display self-righteous hypocritical behaviour are so blind as not to see what kind of people they really are?.

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  Why is it that people who display self-righteous hypocritical behaviour are so blind as not to see what kind of people they really are?
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  Preaching is a waste of time

  by konceptual99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  before anyone gives me the "bears/wood" similarities, this is a post based on insidethekh's reply on the mormon v jw thread.

  (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/287545/1/who-is-copying-who-jws-or-mormons) i like to see wt friendly posts on here as some of the wt bashing displays the same logical fallacies as levelled against the wts and it's followers so it's good to consider reasoned debate.. on the one hand i think itkh makes a fair point if you compare the worldwide success of mormons v jws but there is an overall context to the preaching work that is completely ignored by those fully "in" and has been a major factor in my move from being an active witness to one on the cusp of getting out.

  from a statistical point of view there are great headline numbers presented by the wts but if you put them in the context of the number of witnesses, conversation ratios, ratio of new witnesses to birth rates, numbers that must be leaving, growth differentials across the globe, penetration in muslim nations and so on then these numbers become meaningless.

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  hoser

  The preaching work is basically a wild goose chase. It is set up so the publishers will not have a lot of success and will feel that somehow they are inadequate.

  It is more about retaining existing members that recruiting new ones.

  It seems to me that it is a social club of sorts. The Saturday morning group gets together, does a couple of calls, goes for coffee break and the members make social plans for spending Saturday evening together.
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  New requirement to become an Elder or Ministerial Servant!

  by hardtobeme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.

  he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.

  if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".

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  Basically these unwritten rules are in place to discover which male members of the congregation lack self esteem and can be used(abused) in a position of trust within the corporation.
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  UNCONFIRMED RUMOUR - GB Member DF

  by notsurewheretogo in

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  did you see the post on reddit?

  unconfirmed naturally and just a rumour but at at one assembly this week it was announced that the 6 members of the gb send their love.. .

  there are 7 members of the gb.. .

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  hoser

  I doubt it to be true but it would be funny if it was Tony Balony tight pants.
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  Lowering the standards: The sign of a cult struggling for survival

  by Hidden-Window in

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  many of the recent changes in the jehovah's witness organization are a clear sign of a cult that is struggling for survival.

  the internet has change the scenario in a very dramatic way.

  many of us who for years struggled alone with doubts and cognitive dissonance thinking that we were the only ones, that we, as individuals were the issue, now know that there is a large community of individuals who see the organization as what it is, a mind controlling cult that is not only false, but also dangerous.. the governing body clearly understands the consequences of this awakening.

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  It is a lot like Sears and Target in Canada. No one shops there anymore because everyone knows they are going broke anyway.
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  New requirement to become an Elder or Ministerial Servant!

  by hardtobeme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.

  he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.

  if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".

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  hoser

  They have a hard enough time getting men to do this job you would think they would be relaxing the standards.
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  Armageddon will be here in less than 4 years!

  by hoser in

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  that's the word according to my mil.

  mrs hoser is starting a new career and the college and work training will take her four years to complete.

  her mom is giving her a hard time telling her that the system will be over before she graduates.

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  I think it is a control thing. MIL doesn't like us being too independant.