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Why do Americans have to pay so much for College???

by RubaDub in

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i know there is a huge college/university lobby here in the us that lives off of students paying, in some cases, enormous amounts of money just to attend.. putting politics aside, if that is possible, (and i am not a bernie sanders guy by any means), but how can we pay for pre-kindergarten, kindergarten, elementary school, junior high, high school, and then throw a huge debt to someone who wants to continue learning?

can't the us (public and state universities) afford four more years for young people to get on a career path without having to, in some cases, take out a mortgage/loan more than the cost of some homes?

then, (and nothing against immigrants, i am married to one), but then the us has to "import" students from other countries to fill the needs that we should be supplying here.

hoser

@Jehalapeno

The “degree is important for success” meme is complete bullshit. Your work matters more than your education when it comes to success. Showing up, being on time, producing and generally being a reliable employee goes miles farther towards success than a degree.

There is a bit of truth here. I am a businessman with no formal business education. If I am doing something wrong my income statement and banker will tell me. I don’t need a degree to tell me. My business education has consisted of observing others successes and failures and acting accordingly.

One thing I have observed is the consistency that university has drilled into their business students. I can usually figure out the university grads I deal with fairly quickly. They all think and talk the same.

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Why do Americans have to pay so much for College???

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i know there is a huge college/university lobby here in the us that lives off of students paying, in some cases, enormous amounts of money just to attend.. putting politics aside, if that is possible, (and i am not a bernie sanders guy by any means), but how can we pay for pre-kindergarten, kindergarten, elementary school, junior high, high school, and then throw a huge debt to someone who wants to continue learning?

can't the us (public and state universities) afford four more years for young people to get on a career path without having to, in some cases, take out a mortgage/loan more than the cost of some homes?

then, (and nothing against immigrants, i am married to one), but then the us has to "import" students from other countries to fill the needs that we should be supplying here.

hoser

Truck driver Western Canada. $100,000 CAD per year

Farm equipment operator $35.00 per hour

Industrial Electrician $50.00 per hour

None require degree but a lot of grunt work required.

But we still need college folks to tell the rest of us dumb fucks how to live

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Why do Americans have to pay so much for College???

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i know there is a huge college/university lobby here in the us that lives off of students paying, in some cases, enormous amounts of money just to attend.. putting politics aside, if that is possible, (and i am not a bernie sanders guy by any means), but how can we pay for pre-kindergarten, kindergarten, elementary school, junior high, high school, and then throw a huge debt to someone who wants to continue learning?

can't the us (public and state universities) afford four more years for young people to get on a career path without having to, in some cases, take out a mortgage/loan more than the cost of some homes?

then, (and nothing against immigrants, i am married to one), but then the us has to "import" students from other countries to fill the needs that we should be supplying here.

hoser

Well said mr mustard. You have clearly progressed from sleeping in the park and shaving in the dark.

Government interference is what ruins businesses and a healthy economy.

Our new finance minister much to the chagrin of the lefty’s has changed the funding model for universities in our province. The government will only fund programs where there is clear indication that the economy needs that training. For example our province needs 10,000 truck drivers. There is funding of $5000 of the $9000 it costs for training. If you want your gender studies degree you can pay it out of your pocket.

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Why do Americans have to pay so much for College???

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i know there is a huge college/university lobby here in the us that lives off of students paying, in some cases, enormous amounts of money just to attend.. putting politics aside, if that is possible, (and i am not a bernie sanders guy by any means), but how can we pay for pre-kindergarten, kindergarten, elementary school, junior high, high school, and then throw a huge debt to someone who wants to continue learning?

can't the us (public and state universities) afford four more years for young people to get on a career path without having to, in some cases, take out a mortgage/loan more than the cost of some homes?

then, (and nothing against immigrants, i am married to one), but then the us has to "import" students from other countries to fill the needs that we should be supplying here.

hoser

@hybridous

Does a $50,000 per year Harvard degree get you a better paying job than a $10,000 per year community college degree? If so, how many years does it take to recoup the extra tuition costs?

If Harvard degrees pay better dividends then try to get schooled at Harvard.

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Why do Americans have to pay so much for College???

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i know there is a huge college/university lobby here in the us that lives off of students paying, in some cases, enormous amounts of money just to attend.. putting politics aside, if that is possible, (and i am not a bernie sanders guy by any means), but how can we pay for pre-kindergarten, kindergarten, elementary school, junior high, high school, and then throw a huge debt to someone who wants to continue learning?

can't the us (public and state universities) afford four more years for young people to get on a career path without having to, in some cases, take out a mortgage/loan more than the cost of some homes?

then, (and nothing against immigrants, i am married to one), but then the us has to "import" students from other countries to fill the needs that we should be supplying here.

hoser

Is part of the problem the social prestige connected with having a fancy university degree? Does that drive up the cost? Do universities charge what the market will bear?

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Why do Americans have to pay so much for College???

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i know there is a huge college/university lobby here in the us that lives off of students paying, in some cases, enormous amounts of money just to attend.. putting politics aside, if that is possible, (and i am not a bernie sanders guy by any means), but how can we pay for pre-kindergarten, kindergarten, elementary school, junior high, high school, and then throw a huge debt to someone who wants to continue learning?

can't the us (public and state universities) afford four more years for young people to get on a career path without having to, in some cases, take out a mortgage/loan more than the cost of some homes?

then, (and nothing against immigrants, i am married to one), but then the us has to "import" students from other countries to fill the needs that we should be supplying here.

hoser

If the Chinese offered an equivalent education for a lower overall price why wouldn’t you send your kid there? They should be rewarded for their efficiencies.

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Why do Americans have to pay so much for College???

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i know there is a huge college/university lobby here in the us that lives off of students paying, in some cases, enormous amounts of money just to attend.. putting politics aside, if that is possible, (and i am not a bernie sanders guy by any means), but how can we pay for pre-kindergarten, kindergarten, elementary school, junior high, high school, and then throw a huge debt to someone who wants to continue learning?

can't the us (public and state universities) afford four more years for young people to get on a career path without having to, in some cases, take out a mortgage/loan more than the cost of some homes?

then, (and nothing against immigrants, i am married to one), but then the us has to "import" students from other countries to fill the needs that we should be supplying here.

hoser

Interesting comment rub a dub.

The taxpayer pays for basic education to grade 12 here in Canada. My parents and their neighbours paid for my education by paying their property taxes.

A society needs people who can read, write and rithmatic.

Whatever schooling you do after that is your own business. You should take a loan, finance it by planting trees in the summer, or your parents or sugar daddy/momma can pay. You should make more money with a degree than high school and easily be able to pay for the extra school. If not do something else.

edited to add.

I agree with simons chart. The government should stay out of business. They seem to be good at creating false incentives.

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Why do Americans have to pay so much for College???

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i know there is a huge college/university lobby here in the us that lives off of students paying, in some cases, enormous amounts of money just to attend.. putting politics aside, if that is possible, (and i am not a bernie sanders guy by any means), but how can we pay for pre-kindergarten, kindergarten, elementary school, junior high, high school, and then throw a huge debt to someone who wants to continue learning?

can't the us (public and state universities) afford four more years for young people to get on a career path without having to, in some cases, take out a mortgage/loan more than the cost of some homes?

then, (and nothing against immigrants, i am married to one), but then the us has to "import" students from other countries to fill the needs that we should be supplying here.

hoser

University should pay for itself or you are in the wrong field.

It is an investment in increased future earnings. I see student debt as taking on debt for any other asset. It should realize a return or it is a piss poor investment.

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Why Does So Much Intellectual Innovation in the US Tend to Come from the East or West Coasts ???

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

there are many good universities in the central part of the us but why do so many innovative things, i.e.

silicon valley, seem to happen on one side of the country or the other (california, new york, massachusetts to name a few)?

even what is considered the most high tech area in the center of the country, austin texas, is a huge liberal bastion.

hoser

It’s harder to do business in a small town as there are issues with talent and supply chains. All of the smart people leave where they grew up and end up in the cities.

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Why Does So Much Intellectual Innovation in the US Tend to Come from the East or West Coasts ???

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

there are many good universities in the central part of the us but why do so many innovative things, i.e.

silicon valley, seem to happen on one side of the country or the other (california, new york, massachusetts to name a few)?

even what is considered the most high tech area in the center of the country, austin texas, is a huge liberal bastion.

hoser

These areas have a higher population density than central USA and Canada and the east coast was settled earlier. It seems to me you feel that innovators vote liberal. I don’t agree with that.