so my wife ran into a elder i new 10 years ago and invites him to dinner!!!!!
he arives and gives me a bear hug...love bombing!
he started talking about armegedon is really very very close.
When elders try to guilt shame, threaten, scare me with their Armageddon fantasies and how close we are I would love to tell them:
Yes brother, Armageddon is much closer than we both realize. I can’t wait for this wicked world to be over. When I’m on the other side and if by chance you don’t make it I’ll make sure you are given a proper burial.
Wait for his reaction, then laugh and say just kidding.
so i grew up in a small town with lots of witnesses so being bored we had two fancy dress up parties now some brothers came with swords and fake guns as pirates or cowboys one brother who was a pioneer came dressed as a woman!
the elders smashed us in a talk they gave and these fun parties were cancelled..
A little off topic but when I was young un a brother in our congregation used to have wild alcohol fueled jw parties. The unmarried pioneer sisters were the biggest sluts in attendance.
I was only 16 or 17 so was too young to get any action from a 25 year old regular pioneer or maybe I ran and hid. I was probably drunk and passed out and missed out. Lol.
The neighbouring congregation had such a bad reputation for its teen and early twenty’s members that my parents wouldn’t let us associate with them. They were elders kids that could get away with anything. This was 40 years ago. Now they are the elders.
i was mulling this over last night...too much free time, i know.
both disfellowshipping and shunning indicate the action of avoiding someone, taking them out of your sphere of associates.
probably is a better sound bite to say "removed.
I think they changed the wording and process with minors and older ones to keep their welfare status in Europe. This coincides with the new(old) marking arrangement where individuals are to decide who gets shunned, not announced publicly.
In effect the group gossip mill decide who gets ostracized but it is off the books and doesn’t affect the tax breaks the cultorporation gets.
Follow the $$
so the c.o and his wife came over for dinner and of course checked out our library and saw lord of the rings and told us off for spiritism books...it's just a damn fantasy book the bible has more magic and devils in it.
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We were never taught appropriate boundaries as jehovahs witnesses.
What we thought as normal, looking through private areas of other peoples houses and allowing other people (circuit overseers and elders ) rummaging though our private lives is just dysfunctional.
The circuit overseer would blow a fuse if they saw our dvd collection but they don’t come our way often.
simply put; gullible people were told if they chose life on earth instead of heaven, they wouldn't have to die.
that's how they sold it.
the watchtower lied to people in the 1920 booklet and convention series titled "millions now living will never die!
Sunk cost fallacy kept them in
as somebody who worked full-time when i was in the witness religion, this topic naturally caught my eye.. many of the responses are heartfelt.
there are about 90 at this point.
from what i read so far.. many are people who woke up before they got old but even these are resentful over their life being derailed with wasted time pursuing spiritual goals and having to start over at a later age getting an education/job.. i imagine born-in young jws would be most susceptible to this.. in today’s world, a ‘career’ is something that earns you a living.. as many of the responses there will say: anybody who pursues ‘spiritual goals’ only will end up with wasted time in the end with no money and no retirement plan… i couldn’t agree more.. it would be a shame if this happens to yet more jws..
LHG
The titles keep the elders and pioneers working for free.
Its really no different than a fast food joint that promotes the fry guy to a “management” position, changes his hourly wage to a salary, purposely gives him a high workload and gets him to work overtime for free.
His reward is employee recognition award that cost 5 cents to photocopy.
simply put; gullible people were told if they chose life on earth instead of heaven, they wouldn't have to die.
that's how they sold it.
the watchtower lied to people in the 1920 booklet and convention series titled "millions now living will never die!
simply put; gullible people were told if they chose life on earth instead of heaven, they wouldn't have to die.
that's how they sold it.
the watchtower lied to people in the 1920 booklet and convention series titled "millions now living will never die!
Why limit the size of your book selling business to 144,000 members?
Originally costco only sold to businesses and people with membership to professional associations. Then they allowed members of the general public to be part of their exclusive club. The mind fuck works to this day and most Costco members are just the general public but somehow they feel special. If you didn’t already know not every item at Costco is priced lower than their competitors.
It is a brilliant business strategy.
the governing body just doesn't let up on encouraging the young children to reach out to do free labor for the organization.
so another generation of young people with ruined lives.
another generation of young people that will get old and wake up in their 50s to realize they were in a religious doomsday cult.. and they are getting rid of some old workers that ran the branches of the organization, and giving them different assignments or maybe they are just sending them home, who knows.
LongHairGal
I know a couple in their 70’s that have been serving overseas for decades and the gig is up for them very soon.
From the evidence I have pieced together, they have been lying about their residency so that when the borg asks them to leave they get more old age pension.
This is nothing new. I have heard need greaters give advice to others about how they can get relatives to maintain an address in Canada so they can claim benefits when they get older and even get money now.
Other than the fact it is fraud, This couple has the nerve to tell me I work too much. I have to. I’m overtaxed supporting deadbeats like them.
There ain’t no free lunch. Somebody is paying.
memories..... a 1970s-1980s meetup location to grab a ride to local trips on the subway...or a bite on montague st.. brooklyn heights hotel to be turned into homes.
the hotel bossert, a storied hotel on montague street in brooklyn heights, was sold to someraroad, a new york city and nashville-based real estate investment and development firm.. bk reader staffmay 31, 2025 10:00 amjun 2, 2025 9:20 am.
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Looks like the watchtower made out good on this deal.
They sold it for 81 million in 2012 and it’s basically been in foreclosure since then.
