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  Is This New?

  by Lost in the fog in

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  it is a very long time since i was an elder and the elders textbooks have changed multiple times since then.

  going back to when i was an elder, to the best of my knowledge the only way a spouse could divorce from his/her partner was porneia, if that person had sexual relations with a man, woman, child, or beast.

  but it had to be proven and that's the dubious 2 witness rule.. in fact, if it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!

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  The more I look into it “brazen conduct” is a catch all to disfellowship.

  It is much like a charge of mischief under the criminal code when they can’t charge you with anything else.
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  Is This New?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is a very long time since i was an elder and the elders textbooks have changed multiple times since then.

  going back to when i was an elder, to the best of my knowledge the only way a spouse could divorce from his/her partner was porneia, if that person had sexual relations with a man, woman, child, or beast.

  but it had to be proven and that's the dubious 2 witness rule.. in fact, if it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!

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  In the governing bodies deluded minds sex only happens at night and if you spend the entire night at someone’s house.

  If the man went into her house at 10pm, banged his secretary, left at 11pm and drove to the airport to go on his trip fornication didn’t happen, but if his flight was cancelled and he crashed on her couch and went to the airport in the morning they had sex.
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  11/2022 WT, not-so-encouraging experiences

  by neat blue dog in

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  here's some 'spiritual gems' from the latest wt, 11/22.

  first up, a bethelite who was kicked out, er, "reassigned":.

  "she was reassigned to the field after serving at bethel for more than 23 years.

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  The second experience affirms what I have suspected for decades.

  They know they are going to close the congregation and sell the hall but they are so dishonest that they won’t tell the publishers until AFTER the renovations are bought and paid for by the local brothers.
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  Did becoming a JW influence you to give up something you enjoyed ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  when i was a teenager a younger fellow workmate was involved in the sport of judo.i got interested and went along to a number of sessions and took to it like a sponge to water ,and as a sport i was happy participating in.. not that much longer another workmate was getting re-activated in the religion of jw`s.

  which i had never heard o before and then got interested in that .. conflict : was judo a sport that was compatible with j.w beliefs?

  sadly i decided it was not and stopped any further involvement.. to this day i resent that decision i made back then .and i`m 82 years old now.. it was a sport i was comfortable doing and i enjoyed it.and i gave it up because of the religion .who knows what i may have achieved had i continued with it.

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  Discouraged from playing in a rock band.
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  New Store called Best Life Gifts

  by Franklin30 in

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  i noticed a recent post where it was suggested the store was taken over by hostile means!.

  the person who posted it pretended to have knowledge of why the store changed names but clearly was operating with an agenda!

  one filled with lies, misinformation and deceit!.

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  I wonder if Thomas Matos and Nanci Matos will face a judicial hearing as they were basically convicted in civil court of fraud?

  Or will they cry persecution because they were sued by an ex jw?
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  Thoughts on the "movie" studios that are being built?

  by enoughisenough in

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  as far as i know ramapo and one in australia are being built.

  while on the topic i saw a leaked letter, that the average publishers won't be invited to be actors.

  ( ahh!

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  People in general have a short attention span and are lazy. Videos take little effort to watch and get the viewers emotionally invested.

  They are a great way to keep witnesses attending.
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  Will the faithful slave now allow birthdays..........

  by BoogerMan in

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  .....or ban jw sisters from using mascara??????

  "the bible never refers to a servant of god celebrating a birthday.

  this is not simply an oversight, for it does record two birthday celebrations by those not serving god.

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  Allowing a day for a person to be pampered might just let them have a bit of self esteem.

  It’s harder to control people who feel good about themselves.
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  Could the WT org. Be in on the "great reset"?

  by nowwhat? in

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  the org.

  was all too willing to emphasize to the government - especially the left that they very obedient to the calls for mask, vaccine, and lockdown mandates.

  those that know about the great reset know what i'm talking about.

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  The org is in on reset 2030.

  You’ll own nothing and be happy.

  I understand the you’ll own nothing part but you’ll be happy I’m not to sure of.
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  Will the faithful slave now allow birthdays..........

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  .....or ban jw sisters from using mascara??????

  "the bible never refers to a servant of god celebrating a birthday.

  this is not simply an oversight, for it does record two birthday celebrations by those not serving god.

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  I doubt if they will ever allow birthday or Christmas celebrations. The reason is that disallowing these keeps cult members from spending time with “worldly” people thus lowering the risk of members slowing in cult recruitment or exiting the religion completely.

  Mascara and make up serves a useful purpose as well. It is used as a tool to criticize sisters who use too much, too little or a non approved color. This acts as a way to destabilize women in the congregation and doubt their own judgement in these matters, thus making them dependant on the leaders.
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  Bring on the YOUNG elders

  by enoughisenough in

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  there seems to be a push to fast track the younger men to become elders.

  beings jesus was 30 when he took up his ministry, i would think that would sort of be an age gauge...the older men were to have their children in subjection, so some were old enough to have children that were old enough to want to rebel.

  ( that's my slant ) how will the ones who have been jw for years respond to being counseled by those younger than some of their grandchildren?

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  Elders and ministerial servants are less likely to leave the truth. Appoint them young. On the flip side young, inexperienced elders have the ability to wake up others.