snowbird..... how is satan the one source of evil? especially when you see in Biblical Hebrew, that it isn't a name or title for one specific being. it's an action.
lesabre
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
truthseeker....... ;)
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
snowbird.... how did the belief start in the garden? it was just a serpant. if "Satan" WAS the serpent, wasn't he then punished by being made to crawl on his belly over the face of the earth? i would think, that if "Satan" WAS the serpent, that this would mean that he was thrown to the earth then and there. yet, in Job, "ha-satan" is one of the angels who has a place in heaven.
1 choronicles, is again an angel sent by G-d. what was his job? giving a hard task like counting all those people would have taken some time, and acted as a hinderance in way. if it was "Satan" (being a certain fallen angel) then where is his evil act in that scripture? he told them to count the people. it was G-d who ended up getting mad cause Joab screwed up, and it had nothing to do with "Satan".
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
(the above was for truthseeker)
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
i don't think you get that "satan" isn't a name. not even a fallen angel.
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
snowbird... look up 1kings 5:18, psalm 109:6, 2 samuel 19:23, zechariah 3:1-2, and job 1:6 in a good Hebrew/English Tanakh. look for how the term "satan" is used. in Hebrew, it's spelled: "sin" "tet" "final nun". look for those letters in the scriptures.
use this website to see which letters i am reffering to: ancient-hebrew.org/7_home.html
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
snowbird..... where in the TaNaKh (old testament) is "Satan"? it's MUCH later theology and isn't rooted in the TNK. so where did the belief start?
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
p.s. all you satan believers...... you should look at the scriptures in Biblical Hebrew. G-d sent his angel as a "satan" in the talking donkey story. every time the hebrew word "satan" is used, it refers to an angel or man acting as a hinderance to someone else. there never was a "Satan" until the "NT". not even in Job. in Job, the word used is "ha-satan". "ha" means "the". when you read the account in Hebrew, you see that it was a regular angel acting as "the adversary" in the story. "satan" is more like the attitude of the person/angel at the time.
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
i agree with you quentin.... after researching what the Jewish belief is on satan...... i dropped that belief realllllllly quick! before, i believed that "he" was trying to guide my life, blah blah blah..... not no more!
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Anyone here have any experience with the "super-natural"?
by Knowsnothing inand if so, would that prove an existence of evil-spirits (demons)?.
i have heard of a couple of stories of possession, or of jw's talking to spiritists and the spiritists having seen 2 men following the jw, either dressed all in black, or all in white, and very strong looking.
yet, i have never experienced any of it.. another experience that i heard is about a brother whose mom had super-natural strength, and tossed something really heavy.
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lesabre
i have a few stories that happened to me, but i don't know "exactly" what "it" was or if they were ever anything. but nothing as exciting as JW stories.... although.... this one "sister" told me a story of how her mom gave her an old piano and it was demonized. there was a man who would apear in the wood grain and looked like it was speaking, but no voice came out. i never told her that the same thing happened when i was a kid. only the man in the wood grain was in the bathroom and would appear when i would take a bath. it would go away if anyone else came in. lots of things happened in that old house. just recently when i lived in my inlaw's downstairs, there was something that would pull on my t-shirt and mess with my hair whenever i did dishes alone in the house. but i don't put labels on things like that. it's freaky when it happens though.