this thread is waaay to long for me to read.....
but.....
standfirm.....
prove to me that jesus is the messiah.
lesabre
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Introducing Myself
by StandFirm inhello to jwn!
this is standfirm.
i mainly post on the topix jehovah's witness forum, but i decided to give it a try over here also.
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
thank you jam... ;) (see my earlier posts)
the only time "satan" is used in the TNK is when it describes a person/angel's purpose/action. never ever ever refers to an actual entity that is named Satan, or even evil for that matter.
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
snowbird.... where in the TNK does it say that the serpent was "Satan" or that "Satan" is the source of evil? it's all much much much later theology.
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
snowbird..... how is satan the one source of evil? especially when you see in Biblical Hebrew, that it isn't a name or title for one specific being. it's an action.
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
truthseeker....... ;)
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
snowbird.... how did the belief start in the garden? it was just a serpant. if "Satan" WAS the serpent, wasn't he then punished by being made to crawl on his belly over the face of the earth? i would think, that if "Satan" WAS the serpent, that this would mean that he was thrown to the earth then and there. yet, in Job, "ha-satan" is one of the angels who has a place in heaven.
1 choronicles, is again an angel sent by G-d. what was his job? giving a hard task like counting all those people would have taken some time, and acted as a hinderance in way. if it was "Satan" (being a certain fallen angel) then where is his evil act in that scripture? he told them to count the people. it was G-d who ended up getting mad cause Joab screwed up, and it had nothing to do with "Satan".
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
(the above was for truthseeker)
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
i don't think you get that "satan" isn't a name. not even a fallen angel.
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
snowbird... look up 1kings 5:18, psalm 109:6, 2 samuel 19:23, zechariah 3:1-2, and job 1:6 in a good Hebrew/English Tanakh. look for how the term "satan" is used. in Hebrew, it's spelled: "sin" "tet" "final nun". look for those letters in the scriptures.
use this website to see which letters i am reffering to: ancient-hebrew.org/7_home.html
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LETS TALK SATAN....WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?
by Quentin ini for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
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lesabre
snowbird..... where in the TaNaKh (old testament) is "Satan"? it's MUCH later theology and isn't rooted in the TNK. so where did the belief start?