I was raised a JW but left when I became an adult. 15 years later, I picketed an assembly (about seven/ eight years ago.) It was a neat experience. I got all sorts of looks and non-looks. I even had a nice chat with a young lad. The highlight was when my dad (a PO), mom and brother walked by me. I said, "Hi dad!" He just shook his head. Whew! If only I could have bottled the moment. Hmmm.
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Assembly picketing
by freedom96 in.
when i went to the assemblies, i would see people picketing, holding signs up, etc.
you would have "security" to look out for green bibles, and keep opostates out.. i never looked at them with hatred, never really gave it much thought at all.. i am curious if anyone here has participated in protesting the assemblies, and what were the reactions?
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SURVEY *Question RE: Disfellowshipping *
by zev inhave any of you here, either by word of mouth or personal experience, heard of entire congregations being disfellowshipped, or nearly entire congregations, like say 50% or more?
thank you for your support in this all important survey .
from apostate central, ri .
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Jimmer
Hmmm...
Let's say my folks?!?!?!
I dare say that might make for a dicey, yet memorable turn of events.
-jimmer
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"Mamma, Mia!"
by Jimmer inif anyone is interested, mamma mia is good fun; lighthearted and full of memories for those in their 40's.. just ask gopher, we went to it last evening.
our ears are still ringing..
"chow!
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Jimmer
If anyone is interested, Mamma Mia is good fun; lighthearted and full of memories for those in their 40's.
Just ask Gopher, we went to it last evening. Our ears are still ringing.
"Chow!" fellow co-compatriates.
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JW Children: Feeling alone and sad
by Gopher infriday many american schools recited the pledge of allegiance to the nation's flag simultaneously, at 2pm eastern time (8am in hawaii).
to be sure, the pressure on children of jw's was great because of the nationalistic feelings that have swept america in the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attacks.. should jw parents simply have removed their children for that afternoon?
or perhaps armed them with a better explanation (about why they won't say the pledge) then "it's because of my religion"???.
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Jimmer
I was once a JW youth. I was quite uncomfortable standing there, silent, while the Pledge was recited.
I'm out now. I'm older. And, perhaps, a bit more thankful for what we have in this great country, the USA.
My ultimate allegiance is to God. However, I'm also quite committed to my wife, my kids, etc. Hmmm... What makes an allegiance to a government any different?
I'm committed to doing what it takes to make my marriage a success, and a happy one at that. I will do the same for my country.
This nit-picking, hair-splitting by the JWs is most regrettable.
In my opinion, the USA is only as good as its citizens. If you support it, more power to you. If you don't, at least be thankful you have the blood-bought freedom to do so. (Kind of a catch-22.)God Bless America!
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PRINCE: The virtual evangelist?
by Gopher inthat was the heading of a section in the minneapolis star-tribune's gossip column dated 8/12/01.
prince rogers nelson, based in minneapolis, is an internationally famous musician-composer-singer of the 80's and 90's.
recently he converted to the jw's.
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Jimmer
I'd give anything to see him giving a talk. The imagery blows my mind. You know, that purple suit getting out of his seat as he is introduced, "Please welcome the artist formerly introduced as the artist formerly known as Prince; Prince!"
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No Moral Absolutes?
by Rex B13 inhi gang,.
those who claim that morality is subjective have painted themselves into a corner.
how about this, kent, big jim, seeker, a.f., j.h., troglodyte trilobyte, hippo the dippo, lisa baby, mulan, ldh, boynenko, et al?.
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Jimmer
I just have to chuckle. These comments all purport to contain some element of a moral reality. Again I pose the question, "How do you know whether something is moral or not; right or wrong?"
None of the above statements has yet to answer that question fully.
Gut feelings and/or measured consequenses do not get to the heart of the issue. They are merely assertions that fail because of their inherent subjectivity and relativity.
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No Moral Absolutes?
by Rex B13 inhi gang,.
those who claim that morality is subjective have painted themselves into a corner.
how about this, kent, big jim, seeker, a.f., j.h., troglodyte trilobyte, hippo the dippo, lisa baby, mulan, ldh, boynenko, et al?.
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Jimmer
Now we've based morality on whether the consequenses are bad or not; harmful or not. Who determines that? What is the yardstick to be used?
Harmful actions and bad consequenses are in the mind of the beholder; subjective at best.
HOW DO YOU KNOW that the consequenses are harmful or bad? What is the foundation for this moral absolute on your part?
No matter what stand you take, you must start somewhere. But, again, who claims to be the judge/dictator of that point? You? -
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No Moral Absolutes?
by Rex B13 inhi gang,.
those who claim that morality is subjective have painted themselves into a corner.
how about this, kent, big jim, seeker, a.f., j.h., troglodyte trilobyte, hippo the dippo, lisa baby, mulan, ldh, boynenko, et al?.
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Jimmer
"Do as you want, as long as no one gets hurt."
That is a value statement; a statement asserting a moral stand, a judgment on what constitutes right and wrong.
So, hurting someone is wrong? And if an act does not "hurt" someone, then it is okay?Define "hurt," please.
More importantly, how do you know hurting someone is wrong? On what grounds do you make that assertion?
Seems to me you are trying to claim moral relativism regards to some acts and a moral absolute to others.
You can not have it both ways. Either there is an objective standard (moral obsolute) to measure human behavior or there is not. There is no fence riding on this matter.
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What is this Faithful & Devoted Slave?
by alex ini keep reading about some faithful & devoted slave being god's official spokesman on earth.
can somebody explain to me what this all means.
in mormonism the source for all truth is the prophet who speaks for god and runs the huge moneymaking businesses of mormonism.
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The reference is from a parable, not a prophecy. There is not intent by Jesus to point to a future, "prophetic fulfillment" of a faithful and discreet slave. Rather, the parable simply is simply a picture of one who is alert, aware and attentive to the Lord's work.
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Apostates at assemblies...
by TheApostleAK inanyone here got any stories about apostates going on the rampage at any meetings, assemblies, conventions.. i haven't seen any but a young witness told me that his previous cong.
called the police to a meeting cos a df person went apesh*t once.. also, all aussie jw's should know about the riot at a glenelg convention in adelaide in the 1940's where apostates rushed to the sound equipment and some jw stood in there way and kinghit one of them.
(see 1983 yearbook).. from the apostle ak
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The event took place about seven years ago. I was involved in an anti-cult support group. A half dozen of us found the most stategic spots we could and stood with our signs. The signs had our phone number and some simple pleasant messages.
The young lad who stopped and talked with me was searching. We chatted on and on. People could hear our conversation and the expressions on their faces showed their dissapproval. At one point, some attendants attempted to shoo us away. We calmly told them that the sidewalk was public property and thereby fairgame for us to use to express our opinions. They were not happy about that.
Back to the lad. We chatted for nearly twenty minutes. Then his mother (he's 19 mind you) came up to him and scolded him, dragging him away. (Poor fellow, being treated like a 9 year old.) It was at that precise moment that my parents (whom I had not spoken with for years and years) passed by. In the heat of the moment, I said, "Hi, Dad!" I'm sure that didn't go over well.
All-in-all, the experience was a memorable one.
All those ill-fitting suits and somber faces. I'm glad I'm out.