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  Clean, Clean the Kingdom Hall

  by Euphemism in

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  three pages of this month's insert are dedicated to the article "let us keep our place of worship in good repair.

  " yes, that's 38 minutes of service meeting time devoted to instructions on cleaning and maintaining the kingdom hall.. aside from just the utter ridiculousness and infantilization of this, what really struck me was: "when was the last time that there was a three-page insert on visiting the sick?

  " if the wts devoted half as much organization and attention to such a basic christian duty as it does to the cleaning of the kingdom hall, the organization would be a better place.. i know, nothing new.

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  I once drove by the KH I used to attend I saw my Dad vacuuming the parking lot. Unreal!
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  Moral absolutes

  by Aztec in

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  i keep saying i am going to start a thread on this topic so here goes.... what, if anything, is always morally wrong?

  murder, rape, incest?

  how much do you think your belief, or lack thereof, in a higher power influences your opinion?.

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  My two bits are: Saying,"There are no moral absolutes," is asserting a moral absolute in-and-of-itself.

  Hmmm...
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  Assembly picketing

  by freedom96 in

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  when i went to the assemblies, i would see people picketing, holding signs up, etc.

  you would have "security" to look out for green bibles, and keep opostates out.. i never looked at them with hatred, never really gave it much thought at all.. i am curious if anyone here has participated in protesting the assemblies, and what were the reactions?

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  Jimmer

  Oh, by the way, my family still shuns me. (I wonder why?!)
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  Assembly picketing

  by freedom96 in

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  when i went to the assemblies, i would see people picketing, holding signs up, etc.

  you would have "security" to look out for green bibles, and keep opostates out.. i never looked at them with hatred, never really gave it much thought at all.. i am curious if anyone here has participated in protesting the assemblies, and what were the reactions?

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  Jimmer

  I was raised a JW but left when I became an adult. 15 years later, I picketed an assembly (about seven/ eight years ago.) It was a neat experience. I got all sorts of looks and non-looks. I even had a nice chat with a young lad. The highlight was when my dad (a PO), mom and brother walked by me. I said, "Hi dad!" He just shook his head. Whew! If only I could have bottled the moment. Hmmm.
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  SURVEY *Question RE: Disfellowshipping *

  by zev in

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  have any of you here, either by word of mouth or personal experience, heard of entire congregations being disfellowshipped, or nearly entire congregations, like say 50% or more?

  thank you for your support in this all important survey .

  from apostate central, ri .

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  Jimmer

  Hmmm...

  Let's say my folks?!?!?!

  I dare say that might make for a dicey, yet memorable turn of events.

  -jimmer
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  "Mamma, Mia!"

  by Jimmer in

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  if anyone is interested, mamma mia is good fun; lighthearted and full of memories for those in their 40's.. just ask gopher, we went to it last evening.

  our ears are still ringing..

  "chow!

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  Jimmer

  If anyone is interested, Mamma Mia is good fun; lighthearted and full of memories for those in their 40's.

  Just ask Gopher, we went to it last evening. Our ears are still ringing.

  "Chow!" fellow co-compatriates.
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  JW Children: Feeling alone and sad

  by Gopher in

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  friday many american schools recited the pledge of allegiance to the nation's flag simultaneously, at 2pm eastern time (8am in hawaii).

  to be sure, the pressure on children of jw's was great because of the nationalistic feelings that have swept america in the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attacks.. should jw parents simply have removed their children for that afternoon?

  or perhaps armed them with a better explanation (about why they won't say the pledge) then "it's because of my religion"???.

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  I was once a JW youth. I was quite uncomfortable standing there, silent, while the Pledge was recited.
  I'm out now. I'm older. And, perhaps, a bit more thankful for what we have in this great country, the USA.
  My ultimate allegiance is to God. However, I'm also quite committed to my wife, my kids, etc. Hmmm... What makes an allegiance to a government any different?
  I'm committed to doing what it takes to make my marriage a success, and a happy one at that. I will do the same for my country.
  This nit-picking, hair-splitting by the JWs is most regrettable.
  In my opinion, the USA is only as good as its citizens. If you support it, more power to you. If you don't, at least be thankful you have the blood-bought freedom to do so. (Kind of a catch-22.)

  God Bless America!
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  PRINCE: The virtual evangelist?

  by Gopher in

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  that was the heading of a section in the minneapolis star-tribune's gossip column dated 8/12/01.

  prince rogers nelson, based in minneapolis, is an internationally famous musician-composer-singer of the 80's and 90's.

  recently he converted to the jw's.

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  I'd give anything to see him giving a talk. The imagery blows my mind. You know, that purple suit getting out of his seat as he is introduced, "Please welcome the artist formerly introduced as the artist formerly known as Prince; Prince!"
  I'm sure he'll work in some prophecy about purple rain or something.
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  No Moral Absolutes?

  by Rex B13 in

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  hi gang,.

  those who claim that morality is subjective have painted themselves into a corner.

  how about this, kent, big jim, seeker, a.f., j.h., troglodyte trilobyte, hippo the dippo, lisa baby, mulan, ldh, boynenko, et al?.

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  Jimmer

  I just have to chuckle. These comments all purport to contain some element of a moral reality. Again I pose the question, "How do you know whether something is moral or not; right or wrong?"
  None of the above statements has yet to answer that question fully.
  Gut feelings and/or measured consequenses do not get to the heart of the issue. They are merely assertions that fail because of their inherent subjectivity and relativity.
  Hmmm....
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  No Moral Absolutes?

  by Rex B13 in

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  hi gang,.

  those who claim that morality is subjective have painted themselves into a corner.

  how about this, kent, big jim, seeker, a.f., j.h., troglodyte trilobyte, hippo the dippo, lisa baby, mulan, ldh, boynenko, et al?.

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  Jimmer

  Now we've based morality on whether the consequenses are bad or not; harmful or not. Who determines that? What is the yardstick to be used?
  Harmful actions and bad consequenses are in the mind of the beholder; subjective at best.
  HOW DO YOU KNOW that the consequenses are harmful or bad? What is the foundation for this moral absolute on your part?
  No matter what stand you take, you must start somewhere. But, again, who claims to be the judge/dictator of that point? You?