Posts by sabastious

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hi i am new here

by dawntodaylight in

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i had started studying with jw because i was curious about the religion because my bf then(now husband) was a witness.

i am a very open minded person and really had i known what i know now i prob would not have been baptized.

i always had my doubts but i really enjoyed the positive aspects that i was learning at the meetings...i studied with my mom in law.i prob shouldn't have done that because she has taken it very personal that we have stopped and even had the nerve to say i started studying to get in good with the fam!!

sabastious

I always had my doubts but I really enjoyed the positive aspects that I was learning at the meetings...

^ The thing is, the 'positive' stuff you hear at the meetings is there to sugar-coat the darkness in the center. It is there to help you not think about the billions of people that are going to murdered in Armageddon that is 'just around the corner.'

Don't be fooled by the smiling faces, this is what they are all frothing at the mouth while they wait for it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwA9KX5WJTM

Welcome to the forum! This is an awesome place.

-Sab

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If you had the power, would you erase humans from existence?

by sabastious in

if you could, would you make it so humans never existed?

because of all the pain and suffering humans have endured for millenia and, in turn, erasing all the glee and bliss experienced as well.. -sab.

sabastious

A few.

Lol, against the rules!

-Sab

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If you had the power, would you erase humans from existence?

by sabastious in

if you could, would you make it so humans never existed?

because of all the pain and suffering humans have endured for millenia and, in turn, erasing all the glee and bliss experienced as well.. -sab.

sabastious

If you could, would you make it so humans never existed? Because of all the pain and suffering humans have endured for millenia and, in turn, erasing all the glee and bliss experienced as well.

-Sab

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WT December 15, 2010

by Designer Stubble in

wt december 15, 2010. snippets from this watchtower are below.

keeping in mind that all articles are written with an agenda, to address problems in the organization or to pave the way for new guidelines, look at what i highlighted.

my conclusions are:.

sabastious

And the grip is slightly tightened again...

-Sab

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Why do JW's downplay older WT articles?

by mamalove in

i was looking at brotherdan's thread about the two articles that really point out in the wtbs's own words that we must follow this organization, blah blah, and they are indeed a cult from reading those articles.

it made me think that i would love to show my mom and sister that, but i know the response would be "so what, that is a 40 year old magazine," it was dated 1969, and 1983 was the other article i believe.. are the jw's i know the only ones who poo poo older articles and say that thinking isn't up to date anymore, that new thinking has superceded those new articles?

even though we know that the overall thinking is the same.

sabastious

There is a ton of very recent stuff to point to as well.

-Sab

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The WT ADMITS to using mind control!!!

by brotherdan in

march 1, 1983 wt page 25 - consider some of the other twisted things used to mislead gods people today.

on occasion opposers will question the various teachings that jehovahs people hold in common.

often this becomes a debate about words, just as it was in the first century.

sabastious

-Sab

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What if JWs are right?!?

by brotherdan in

i know this is a pointless question, but what if this happened:.

you came home from work one day, sat down, and turned on the tv.

there is a sudden announcement that the un has banned all religion.

sabastious

I'm just wondering how I rationally believed this my whole life.

I would be willing to wager that THIS scripture is the culprit of why you thought it feasible:

Revalation 17:17 - For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished.

-Sab

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What if JWs are right?!?

by brotherdan in

i know this is a pointless question, but what if this happened:.

you came home from work one day, sat down, and turned on the tv.

there is a sudden announcement that the un has banned all religion.

sabastious

You came home from work one day, sat down, and turned on the tv. There is a sudden announcement that the UN has banned all religion.

I'd be like... DAMN the Witnesses ARE connected with the Masons!

-Sab

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My Apologies to Christians.

by AK - Jeff in

i have, on occasion, pissed off many or most of the christians on this board.

i have forthrightly ridiculed you at times, but more often, i have lathered satire, or frothed sarcasm at what appeared to me to be inanely ludicrous viewpoint.. i must apologize, for i have seen the light.. i now understand that all of mankind's' plight can indeed be traced to a day in a perfect garden in iraq.

an eloquent snake overcame a naked woman with words that rang truer to her than the words of her master and god.

sabastious

Jeff, as you know, Christianity is an emotional religion. Discussing the logic and reason of emotion is rather futile.

-Sab

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Can someone make the new light bright for me please ?

by wasblind in

hey, where is new light at in the bible or did i miss somethin'.

all the scriptures i read seems it refers to an enlightening.

or refer to god as light, it doesn't refer to god as new or changing.

sabastious

"The path of the rightous is like a bright light"

^ It was not even near bright in 1918 compared to the theology those original whacky ideas have evolved to. It was a dim reading light at first, which is one reason I don't feel that scripture applies to "true christians."

What it applies to is the SINGLE LIFE of ONE person of rightousness. No one is born rightous, nor do they just become rightous one day. It is a long process. Yet all through their path the rightous one is always a shining light in a dark world of apathy and indifference.

-Sab