Totally agree karter. One of the very first things I read when I went on line and started researching. What an eye opener! And I agree with Joe - not until you do a bit of additional reading do you get a full picture of Watchtower past. A whole chapter on Rutherford is included in John Cedar's book. Well worth a read.
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So how did JF Rutherford function...?
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inevery picture i have seen at him at beth shirim and other private places are with a bottle of alcohol.. while for me personally i couldn't care less anymore.... for jw's this is low moral character.
so i'm an going to guess he was a functioning alcoholic... how did that work with his closest workers?
was he gay too?
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DId you ever fall asleep at the meetings, Assemblys??
by karter inif i'm tierd i fall asleep anywere so the meetings ect were no diffrent my wife would always try to wake me but im a deep sleeper.
karter .
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KiwiBoy
I recall the days when once a month a talk was given at the book study group. As soon as the speaker started to talk I was fast asleep. He talked to me about it after and all I could say was I was so tired....it had nothing to do with what he was saying. At least that made him happy. A few years later the speaker was D/f for interfering with young boys.....maybe just as well I fell asleep.
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1975 and the burning question/s??
by UnshackleTheChains inok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.
the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.
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KiwiBoy
Yes karter you are right. I too lived through it. We both saw it and heard it only to be told we heard it all wrongly. That was the last straw for me. So many decisions were made around that date. To bring it up now and still say that only the spirituality weak thought it is so wrong and upsetting. It was the exact opposite....the spiritually STRONG were the ones who made decisions around that date and taught it. The weak were the ones who did NOT go with it.
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I know this sounds absurd but are JWs turning Pentecostal
by joe134cd ini just viewed this.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5703039295946752/clapping-singing-conventions-like-evangelicals.
ok the point has been made.
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KiwiBoy
Well some have said that in some parts of the world this type of emotion is very common. True. But.....the bOrg has always insisted on uniformity. 'If it happens here then it will happen there' approach. So it is surprising that the GB have approved it in one area of the world but no mention in others. Maybe there is more to come in the future! And by that I mean actions mentioned by joe135cd above!! Time will tell. We live in very interesting times indeed! Watch this space.
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Have you ever come across someone on this site or other exjw site that you knew?
by karter in2 for me 1 from my old congro in the 80's and another that was in the same circle of friends.. karter..
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KiwiBoy
I am sure we will have.......been to a few with Charles G... and others.
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Have you ever come across someone on this site or other exjw site that you knew?
by karter in2 for me 1 from my old congro in the 80's and another that was in the same circle of friends.. karter..
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KiwiBoy
Same for me Karter, but then this is a small place and we all appear to have known each other somewhere along the many years of being in the bOrg.
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Were You Surprised You Remained a JW As Long As You Did?
by minimus inwe have been told there's no place else to go.
and to some degree mentally speaking, that is true especially if you were raised in the religion.
at 50 i was out of the organization's clutches.
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KiwiBoy
Joe we were so close and yet so far......I knew what you now know many years ago....what a pity we did not see that...think of you every day.....stay strong!!
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The great tribulation is now coming VERY soon!
by The Searcher inwatchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.
's] have anything to fear?
not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.
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KiwiBoy
This was posted once before but makes the point!
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The great tribulation is now coming VERY soon!
by The Searcher inwatchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.
's] have anything to fear?
not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.
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KiwiBoy
"You can poke your tongue out and taste it".
Yes I remember them all.
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Favorite/least favorite CO's and DO's
by HereIgo ini posted this thread sometime last year but thought i would revive it due to the new ones on the board, and to change things up a bit.
my favorite?
bro murikami, from hawaii, very humble, kind bro.
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KiwiBoy
Do you remember Woulford and Betty Johns? - Karter
Yes I do. They stayed with me on one of their visits. Betty and her pink clothing...I remember so well. I can recall so many of the NZ CO's going back many years...some good friends others not so. Like Joe134cd I had little time for Charles. I never had a good word for him. Worked with him often at assemblies but hated it. I was talking to another brother one day and he came along and said to him: "Why are you standing here talking to the likes of him"? I was right on the verge of leaving the assembly right then! If anything went wrong it was my fault. Shall never forget his arrogance. Glad I no longer have to see him. His wife was lovely...I see she passed away not long ago. Sad.