elder and his wife build a flash house.. they go on the stage at an assembly and give an experiences of how they sold the flash house to simplify their life so they can go pioneering.. the real story.. elder and wife can't afford the flash house and have to sell it he never goes pioneering she does until they are declared bankrupt.. why were they bankrupt?.
the money leaft over from the flash house they invested in a yet to be build apartment and the developer goes bankrupt takeing their money.. just one of many.. karter..
OnTheWayOut: Maybe it's lost in culture.
Yes you are right. Here in NZ we do not use the term 'flash house' to refer to a brothel. It simply refers to a flashy house, an expensive house usually built or purchased to show off ones wealth. This is what karter was referring to. An expensive house. So clearly the truth is stretched when the wrong impression is given by relating rubbish at some assemblies or conventions.
every picture i have seen at him at beth shirim and other private places are with a bottle of alcohol.. while for me personally i couldn't care less anymore.... for jw's this is low moral character.
so i'm an going to guess he was a functioning alcoholic... how did that work with his closest workers?
was he gay too?
Totally agree karter. One of the very first things I read when I went on line and started researching. What an eye opener! And I agree with Joe - not until you do a bit of additional reading do you get a full picture of Watchtower past. A whole chapter on Rutherford is included in John Cedar's book. Well worth a read.
if i'm tierd i fall asleep anywere so the meetings ect were no diffrent my wife would always try to wake me but im a deep sleeper.
karter .
I recall the days when once a month a talk was given at the book study group. As soon as the speaker started to talk I was fast asleep. He talked to me about it after and all I could say was I was so tired....it had nothing to do with what he was saying. At least that made him happy. A few years later the speaker was D/f for interfering with young boys.....maybe just as well I fell asleep.
ok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.
the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.
Yes karter you are right. I too lived through it. We both saw it and heard it only to be told we heard it all wrongly. That was the last straw for me. So many decisions were made around that date. To bring it up now and still say that only the spirituality weak thought it is so wrong and upsetting. It was the exact opposite....the spiritually STRONG were the ones who made decisions around that date and taught it. The weak were the ones who did NOT go with it.
i just viewed this.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5703039295946752/clapping-singing-conventions-like-evangelicals.
ok the point has been made.
Well some have said that in some parts of the world this type of emotion is very common. True. But.....the bOrg has always insisted on uniformity. 'If it happens here then it will happen there' approach. So it is surprising that the GB have approved it in one area of the world but no mention in others. Maybe there is more to come in the future! And by that I mean actions mentioned by joe135cd above!! Time will tell. We live in very interesting times indeed! Watch this space.
2 for me 1 from my old congro in the 80's and another that was in the same circle of friends.. karter..
I am sure we will have.......been to a few with Charles G... and others.
2 for me 1 from my old congro in the 80's and another that was in the same circle of friends.. karter..
Same for me Karter, but then this is a small place and we all appear to have known each other somewhere along the many years of being in the bOrg.
we have been told there's no place else to go.
and to some degree mentally speaking, that is true especially if you were raised in the religion.
at 50 i was out of the organization's clutches.
Joe we were so close and yet so far......I knew what you now know many years ago....what a pity we did not see that...think of you every day.....stay strong!!
watchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.
's] have anything to fear?
not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.
This was posted once before but makes the point!
watchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.
's] have anything to fear?
not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.
"You can poke your tongue out and taste it".
Yes I remember them all.
