Posts by The1975Blues

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Proof - of what?

by Doltologist in

a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.

being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.

the first was called "was life created?

The1975Blues

Telemetry, I thought you might enjoy this discussion with someone who actually understand highly advanced chemistry and not four or five classes (Organic Chemistry probably was the height unless we see a transcript proving higher, that's where I tapped out). Continue reading the argument between someone who clearly does not understand the roles of the Organic Chemistry doctor he's arguing with.

"

> > > I don't doubt that some synthetic organic chemists or chemical
> > > engineers may lean towards creationism, but thankfully they are not
> > > involved in the biology aspects of drug discovery or development.
> > >
> > > steven pirie-shepherd PhD
> >
> > What a self-servicing onanistic load of road apples! It is the organic
> > chemists who need to know the _exact_ composition and concentration in
> > a process. It is the organic chemists who break transformations down
> > into discrete reaction steps and molecular geometries. They do not
> > invoke magic "enzymes" to make B from A. They don't cook up
> > "antibodies" of unknown composition which act as little gods of the
> > dish - adamase and evease.
>
> Hmmm, there is nothing "magic" about enzymes. The reaction mechanisms
> of enzymes are well studied and known for a great number of enzymes.
> Crystallographers have managed to obtain "snapshots" of many of the
> steps in various biochemical reactions at a high degree of resolution.
>

Alas, reactions rarely take place in the crystal and thus such
snapshots are of questionable use.

> Antibodies are well known entities, I don't think they merit the use
> of " ". I certainly don't worship antibodies, although I use them
> frequently as well-defined tools with defined interactions. The site..."

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.chem/7OnH02OW8PY

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Proof - of what?

by Doltologist in

a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.

being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.

the first was called "was life created?

The1975Blues

"Except that Dawkins said exactly that – even down to the "6.9 out of seven" description of his level of surety that there is no God – ages ago. Early on in what is (in my view unjustly) his most famous work, The God Delusion, he points out that no one can have total certainty that God does or does not exist. For that matter, you can't have total certainty that tables, Volkswagens, Adrian Chiles or Bridport exist. You can't, as the philosophers have it, prove that you're not a brain in a jar. But we don't go around in a state of metaphysical doubt about these things; let's face it, we're all pretty happy to assume that the thing we eat our dinner off is really there."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105834/Career-atheist-Richard-Dawkins-admits-fact-agnostic.html

The problem appears that rational thinkers like Richard Dawkins get paid to know their facts, they understand the implications stating "I can prove God does not exist through reductionist arguments", he know's those positions that are easily jumped aboard while remaining unchallenged, if it's so easy how come the he's not an atheist? Why is Dawkins a Agnostic instead of a atheist who has pretty much proved God does not exist? Dawkins explains that people who try to get around this question are not worth debating, his video attacking the atheists that claim they found ways around the problem assured me that they too who make bold claims are just like the Watchtower followers because they can't fullfill the Philosophical fence post hurdle that allows atheism to be considered factual are Dawkins would alter his view in a heartbeat!

In 2014 Dawkins once again make's the assertion "You can't disprove God exists" so besides pleasing Cofty, you need to help adjust Richard Dawkins final percentage that's holding him back from being a full blown atheist, how will you bring Dr. Dawkins in to your group that's absolutely certain God does not exist?

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Proof - of what?

by Doltologist in

a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.

being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.

the first was called "was life created?

The1975Blues

Cofty and Dotologist, how were you able to bypass Richard Dawkins position on God, he's not as intelligent as you if he said he is an agnostic. What secrets can you offer Dr. Dawkins to stop accepting what he say's is factual "you can't disprove the existence of God" as recent as 2014 he's upheld this position. What could you offer him so he can finally cross off all the possibilities or make it below 1% God exist's because Dawkins has not hit your intellectual levels.

With Cofty, there are many lost gospels still believed to be found some day(different teaching on various topics) as mentioned in some of the Early Father's Writings, how did you become familiar with gospels and teachings that have been lost and still waiting to be found? If you are aware of all of them, this must mean you have insight in to everything, just like you both passed Dawkin's by jumping ahead of him in line.

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One hope for ALL christians - interesting video on heavenly hope

by paradisebeauty in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7qe6fqac4.

a short video with proof from the bible that the ones going to "heaven" are not meant to stay there forever, but just to meet jesus there (at the rapture) and be with him forever, on earth, not in heaven!.

The1975Blues

Dr. Bart Erhman on his blog had some surprising but not unknown ideas what the First few century Church Fathers believed in. Papias enjoyed hearing from anyone who has connected or was part of a second gen person who knew what Jesus and his Apostles were teaching while on Earth. Eusebious did not agree with Papias, as for me, all I can do is look for the Master until he arrives and than we will know. Keep busy preaching his name through his conduct, helping your fellow man, helping those in need and baptizing them as taught by the Lord's Son.

Papias was under the impression we were going to live on a New Earth and that's what he claimed the elders and other holy men heard from the Source. Check out Erhman's Blog or look up the information yourself, makes the struggle to seek out truth even harder, its a lifelong quest as Jesus Christ stated!

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This just happened within last 15 mins......

by Lied2NoMore in

i saw an instagram post showing a short clip of a talk being given in one of our southern states.

the talk clip showed speaker making the statement, "jehovah doesn't want anyone to know satans real name, jehovah hates satan so much, he doesn't even want his name mentioned" .

i posted in comments: matt 5:44-48 with the full scripture rendered from niv.

The1975Blues

Why did the United States attack Iraq over their invasion of Kuwait, why involve themselves in Kuwait when other countries were not given the same support Kuwait had? In Iraq's view, they were reclaiming something the West took away, the Russians made their move on Crimea knowing they too needed to act less have Western Missiles n the backyard? .Someone made a very excellent comment how YHWH cleaned the land from morally repugnant nations, they had earned elimination if they chose to fight for the land. The Nazis were bad, just as bad as those nations in the past so why would JWs think they had no right to defend the Western Christian lands from Evil like Nazis?

This ISIS situation is going to bring out more people attacking innocent citizens because they feel their countries are nothing more than a natural resource grab by the Super Powers of the World bucking horns there, USA vs China and you see after China had secured Oil Rights that's when moves were made to punish their dictator. The same with Libya, all confusion keeping people's minds tumutous as ISIS looks for a foot-hold in areas where people have more value on life, that's what ISIS is looking for, they want fear instilled in various regions because their not afraid to die for their cause.

Satan must enjoy having men and women willing to practice the ancient Assyrian practices of putting heads on a spike and skinning people alive. Would you allow Jehovah to remove all of ISIS from Earth or do personal and moral based ethics prevent you from allow YHWH from eliminating all of ISIS?

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Remember Going Out In Field Service Before Thursday and Friday's Heat-Stroke Convention at Dodger Stadium?

by The1975Blues in

i don't think the kids will remember going out in field service at your convention's city location helping the fiends do their territory.

on top of the horrendous heat-stroke sitting at dodger stadium we had to preach earlier in the week!

i heard some elderly witnesses speaking about "those were the good old days they thought" the grand old time they had while visiting the city of los angeles!

The1975Blues

During the 1960s-1970s the Watchtower rented a sports stadium for District Convention (Regional Conventions), the seats were hard as a rock(Plastic or steel soft seats that made your butt hurt bad!). They had a pretty decent baseball team when I was a kid. You could take showers in the Dodger's locker room and walk through the arena because we had full access and the witnesses were trusted, one quality we did display or you got removed pretty quick if you stayed overnight i the parking-lot. I won't deny we did get access to Yankee and other Stadiums of fame, because the Witness did not ruin those convention centers, we had full roam, a quality you won't find now!

You had to be there, playing hide-and-seek as a seven year old kid with others (mom taught us about sex perverts and dad was a gun junkie, we had no fear of sex perverts because dad would have killed them and people who knew dad knew that fact as well!). We did have a few good times at night, running around the stadium, goofing off and campfires with fellow friends, like you have a the Apostafest in Tahoe!

http://watchtowerwatch.com/blog/my-path-out-of-the-jw-cult

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They dared !

by coalize in

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i can't believe they had the cheek to come out with that explanation.. it's no more "new light" it's "new scam"!!

!.

The1975Blues

When do you plan on helping me with battered children or cooking meals for the homeless? I would love to have you join us on Friday as we shop at the Food Bank and get all the goods ready to feed them. After that you might enjoy helping us at the Women's Shelter or if that troubles you there are programs for kids needing support because their parents beat the hell out of them.

Which values were you talking about, the one's that tell you to "live like there's nobody else but Jehovah's Witnesses on planet Earth(those don't help witnesses because JWs don't even donate enough cash to keep their congregations going as reported by the Governing Body now!)" or "Shun or Mark anyone you think has committed a sin against the rules and regulations, non-biblical rules you adhere to? Next, don't help the poor because "Jesus said you will always have the poor but you won't have Christ's Brothers to serve, stay on target and don't get distracted with the World and all its problems, your job is to hand out LifeSaving Tracts" that distort the Bible and give glory to mankind while systematically siphoning out anything good to say about my lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

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They dared !

by coalize in

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i can't believe they had the cheek to come out with that explanation.. it's no more "new light" it's "new scam"!!

!.

The1975Blues

coalize10 hours agoCoalize, another one is that the Faithful & Discreet Slave is no longer all of the faithful anointed but the Governing Body only

LOL!

That's why we see their pictures everywhere now. I don't remember to have seen such a smugness picture before, when I was active. I didn't know who they were at all..."

I was talking with my elderly JW dad about the Governing Body being so camera friendly as opposed to the days of Freddy Franz who did not enjoy the spotlight. How many of you knew the names of all the Governing Body members(Not counting Bethelite or Groupie JWs, just regular witnesses) back in 1975-2000 before Brother Barr dropped his dump on us all? I don't remember seeing so much Governing Body footage, why is there such a push to be like all the 1980s TV Televangelist? The Witnesses think their ahead of Christendom, they about 30 years behind because Jim and Tammy Faye were collecting more money in those years than the entire Watchtower Corporation pulled in! Jim and Tammy Fayed could teach the Governing Body how to act so the Watchtower Leaders can Crocodile Tears their Bank Accounts up!

I tried to "strike out" Tammy Faker only to fail is there any reason why my tools don't work? Thanks for the advice!

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Remember Going Out In Field Service Before Thursday and Friday's Heat-Stroke Convention at Dodger Stadium?

by The1975Blues in

i don't think the kids will remember going out in field service at your convention's city location helping the fiends do their territory.

on top of the horrendous heat-stroke sitting at dodger stadium we had to preach earlier in the week!

i heard some elderly witnesses speaking about "those were the good old days they thought" the grand old time they had while visiting the city of los angeles!

The1975Blues

I don't think the kids will remember going out in Field Service at your Convention's City location helping the Fiends do their Territory. On top of the horrendous heat-stroke sitting at Dodger Stadium we had to preach earlier in the week! I heard some elderly witnesses speaking about "Those were the good old days they thought" the grand old time they had while visiting the city of Los Angeles! Arg! Arg! Arg! Preaching in a smog filled city before cars had all the smog equipment, Stage 3 or Stage 4 Smog Alert in some barrios or favelas of Los Angeles sucked! I did not enjoy preaching in those cities we attended, can you imagine preaching in East Los Angeles, Baltimore or some wild city we arrogantly and smugly strutted through because we thought we had Jehovah's Protection Plan?

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This just happened within last 15 mins......

by Lied2NoMore in

i saw an instagram post showing a short clip of a talk being given in one of our southern states.

the talk clip showed speaker making the statement, "jehovah doesn't want anyone to know satans real name, jehovah hates satan so much, he doesn't even want his name mentioned" .

i posted in comments: matt 5:44-48 with the full scripture rendered from niv.

The1975Blues

How do we know his name is not Satan? There's no evidence God has changed Satan's name, over time it's taken on a negative connotation like residents of Crete can attest to. These claims made by the Watchtower Branch near "Bull Shit Mountain" can't prove anything they say!