yes, that's right, they really do not like people being able to read that book so they wanted links to it removed (it appears they have also been going after the hosts of the content itself as well).. unfortunately, i had to removed the links (which were dead anyway when i checked) and i'd ask that people don't re-post them (sorry).
i'm sure there are lots of alternative ways for those with the information to get it to those who need it.. here are the discussions on the book:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200524/1/ks10-chapter-one-discussion.
EggNogg, I don't know your track record on this site, but based on your posts in this thread, you give the impression of being a loyal Watchtower soldier, trying to infuse fear around here!
There are laws in this country protecting copyrights and property but we also have rights and a constitution that protects our civil rights. Those rights don't go away just because some publisher corporation wants to intimidate us. I think Sheperd has refuted your fear mongering very cleverly!
yes, that's right, they really do not like people being able to read that book so they wanted links to it removed (it appears they have also been going after the hosts of the content itself as well).. unfortunately, i had to removed the links (which were dead anyway when i checked) and i'd ask that people don't re-post them (sorry).
i'm sure there are lots of alternative ways for those with the information to get it to those who need it.. here are the discussions on the book:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200524/1/ks10-chapter-one-discussion.
It seems the Watchtower has lost control of the situation and now the book is all over the place. The secrecy of this cult is being divulged to the world.
How come the News media cannot cite it?
what is brazen conduct according to the watchtower?.
here are some references from the new flock book:.
they have really pushed the envelope to bundle a bunch of things into one really evil word.
You can't stay over night with anybody, except yourself and your wife. If you do stay over at bottleofwater's house you are just like a child abuser.... according to the Borg (CULT)
You have brazen conduct for talking to us here... geeee.......We are so evil according to them!
what is brazen conduct according to the watchtower?.
here are some references from the new flock book:.
they have really pushed the envelope to bundle a bunch of things into one really evil word.
What is brazen conduct according to the Watchtower?
Here are some references from the new Flock book:
They have really pushed the envelope to bundle a bunch of things into one really evil word. Demonize some things and compare them to child abuse......Good stragedy to demonize actions like associating with DF'ed friends.
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9. Brazen conduct, loose conduct : (Gal. 5:19)
The Greek word translated "brazen conduct," or
"loose conduct," is a·sel'gei·a. Strong's Greek Dictionary
uses very forceful terms to define it: "licentiousness;
filth[iness], lasciviousness, wantonness." The
New Thayer's Greek English Lexicon adds to the list
"unbridled lust, ... outrageousness, shamelessness,
insolence." Another lexicon defines a·sel'gei·a as conduct
that "violates all bounds of what is socially acceptable."
Rather than relating to bad conduct of a
somewhat petty or minor nature, "brazen conduct"
describes acts that reflect an attitude that betrays disrespect,
disregard, or even contempt for divine standards,
laws, and authority. Therefore, two elements
are involved in brazen conduct: (1) The conduct itself
is a serious violation ofJehovah's laws, and (2) the attitude
of the wrongdoer toward God's laws is disrespectful,
insolent.-w06 7/15 p. 30; w83 3/15 p. 31;
w73 pp. 574-576.
10. Though this is not an exhaustive list, brazen
conduct may be involved in the following if the
wrongdoer has an insolent, contemptuous attitude
made evident by a practice of these things:
• Willful, continued, unnecessary association
with disfellowshipped nonrelatives despite
repeated counsel.-Matt. 18:17b; 1 Cor. 5:11, 13;2 John 10, 11; w81 9/15 pp. 25-26.
• Child sexual abuse: This would include fondling
of breasts, an explicitly immoral proposal,
showing pornography to a child, voyeurism, indecent
exposure, and so forth.
• Continuing to date or pursue a romantic
relationship with a person though not legally
or Scripturally free to marry, despite repeated
counsel and generally after a warning
talk to the congregation.-Gal. 5:19; 2 Thess. 3:6,
14, 15.
11. Evidence (testified to by at least two witnesses)
that the accused stayed all night in the
same house with a person of the opposite sex
(or in the same house with a known homosexual)
under improper circumstances.- If questions
are raised regarding Scriptural freedom to remarry,
see 12:12.
• Elders should use good judgment in assessing
the situation before forming a judicial
committee. Were the two persons alone together
all night? Is there evidence of a romantic
relationship? Are there understandable reasons,
such as an unexpected emergency, that caused
the situation?
• If there are no extenuating circumstances, a judicial
committee would be formed on the basis
of strong circumstantial evidence of por·neí'a.
• Depending upon the attitude of the accused,
there might even be evidence of brazen conduct.
Consider other examples:
• A married brother spends an inordinate amount
of time with his female secretary after work
hours but insists there is no romantic interest.
His concerned wife informs the elders, who give
him strong counsel. Later, when he claims to
be leaving overnight for a "business trip," his
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suspicious wife and a relative follow him to the
secretary' s home. They observe the secretary invite
him inside at 10 p.m. and continue watching
all night until he leaves the home at 7 a.m.
When the elders speak to him, he admits that
he spent the night alone with his secretary, but
he denies that he committed adultery. In such a
case, the elders have a basis to take judicial action
because there is strong circumstantial evidence
of por·neía and there may be elements
of brazen conduct. The innocent mate's conscience
may allow her to choose to divorce him
and remarry; the elders would not take action
against her for making this decision.
page 64
Other examples cited:
An entrenched practice of viewing, perhaps
for years, abhorrent forms of pornography
that is sexually degrading. Such pornography
may include sadistic torture, bondage,
gang rape, the brutalizing of women, or child
pornography. Brazen conduct would be involved
if the offender was promoting such material,
such as by inviting others to view it, thus
giving evidence of a brazen attitude.-w06 7/15
p.31.
According to WikiPedia:
Superstring theory is an attempt to explain all of the particles and fundamental forces of nature in one theory by modelling them as vibrations of tiny supersymmetric strings. Superstring theory is a shorthand for supersymmetric string theory because unlike bosonic string theory, it is the version of string theory that incorporates fermions and supersymmetry. So far the theory has made no quantitative experimental predictions, so that the theory could be falsified (tested) [1] [2] .
The deepest problem in theoretical physics is harmonizing the theory of general relativity, which describes gravitation and applies to large-scale structures (stars, galaxies, super clusters), with quantum mechanics, which describes the other three fundamental forces acting on the atomic scale.
The development of a quantum field theory of a force invariably results in infinite (and therefore useless) probabilities. Physicists have developed mathematical techniques (renormalization) to eliminate these infinities which work for three of the four fundamental forces – electromagnetic, strong nuclear and weak nuclear forces – but not for gravity. The development of a quantum theory of gravity must therefore come about by different means than those used for the other forces.
What is String Theory?
Think of a guitar string that has been tuned by stretching the string under tension across the guitar. Depending on how the string is plucked and how much tension is in the string, different musical notes will be created by the string. These musical notes could be said to be excitation modes of that guitar string under tension.
Planck length, which is about 10 -33 centimeters, or about a millionth of a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a centimeter. Unfortunately, this means that strings are way too small to see by current or expected particle physics technology (or financing!!) and so string theorists must devise more clever methods to test the theory than just looking for little strings in particle experiments.
supersymmetry, which means for every boson (particle that transmits a force) there is a corresponding fermion (particle that makes up matter). So supersymmetry relates the particles that transmit forces to the particles that make up matter.
Another surprising revelation was that superstring theories are not just theories of one-dimensional objects . There are higher dimensional objects in string theory with dimensions from zero (points) to nine, called p-branes . In terms of branes, what we usually call a membrane would be a two-brane, a string is called a one-brane and a point is called a zero-brane.
What makes a p-brane? A p-brane is a spacetime object that is a solution to the Einstein equation in the low energy limit of superstring theory, with the energy density of the nongravitational fields confined to some p-dimensional subspace of the nine space dimensions in the theory. (Remember, superstring theory lives in ten spacetime dimensions, which means one time dimension plus nine space dimensions.) For example, in a solution with electric charge, if the energy density in the electromagnetic field was distributed along a line in spacetime, this one-dimensional line would be considered a p-brane with p=1 .
A special class of p-branes in string theory are called D branes . Roughly speaking, a D brane is a p-brane where the ends of open strings are localized on the brane. A D brane is like a collective excitation of strings.
These objects took a long time to be discovered in string theory, because they are buried deep in the mathematics of T-duality. D branes are important in understanding black holes in string theory, especially in counting the quantum states that lead to black hole entropy, which was a very big accomplishment for string theory.
Before string theory won the full attention of the theoretical physics community, the most popular unified theory was an eleven dimensional theory of supergravity, which is supersymmetry combined with gravity. The eleven-dimensional spacetime was to be compactified on a small 7-dimensional sphere, for example, leaving four spacetime dimensions visible to observers at large distances.
This theory didn't work as a unified theory of particle physics, because it doesn't have a sensible quantum limit as a point particle theory. But this eleven dimensional theory would not die. It eventually came back to life in the strong coupling limit of superstring theory in ten dimensions .
How could a superstring theory with ten spacetime dimensions turn into a supergravity theory with eleven spacetime dimensions? We've already learned that duality relations between superstring theories relate very different theories, equate large distance with small distance, and exchange strong coupling with weak coupling. So there must be some duality relation that can explain how a superstring theory that requires ten spacetime dimensions for quantum consistency can really be a theory in eleven spacetime dimensions after all.
Since we know that all string theories are related, and we suspect that they are but different limits of some more fundamental theory, then perhaps that more fundamental theory exists in eleven spacetime dimensions? These question bring us to the topic of M theory .
Technically speaking, M theory is is the unknown eleven-dimensional theory whose low energy limit is the supergravity theory in eleven dimensions discussed above. However, many people have taken to also using M theory to label the unknown theory believed to be the fundamental theory from which the known superstring theories emerge as special limits.
We still don't know the fundamental M theory, but a lot has been learned about the eleven-dimensional M theory and how it relates to superstrings in ten spacetime dimensions.
In M theory, there are also extended objects, but they are called M branes rather than D branes. One class of the M branes in this theory has two space dimensions, and this is called an M2 brane .
Now consider M theory with the tenth space dimension compactified into a circle of radius R. If one of the two space dimensions that make up the M2 brane is wound around that circle, then we can equate the resulting object with the fundamental string (one-brane) of type IIA superstring theory. The type IIA theory appears to be a ten dimensional theory in the normal perturbative limit, but reveals an extra space dimension, and an equivalence to M theory, in the limit of very strong coupling.
We still don't know what the fundamental theory behind string theory is , but judging from all of these relationships, it must be a very interesting and rich theory, one where distance scales, coupling strengths and even the number of dimensions in spacetime are not fixed concepts but fluid entities that shift with our point of view.
well, it's the big day.
time to go over the checklist..... .
shoes shined.
Congratulations !!! Welcome to Freedom!!!
It's their loss!! They can't stand that we are independent thinkers, that we are critical thinkers and will not accept the fact that we don't want to live in a bubble of fantasy!
F R E E D O M
and i feel good!
it was a long time coming.
i stopped going to meetings june 09. the reason i left it so long is because my husband is still in and for this reason i see witnesses from time to time.
Congratulations on no longer putting up with their Bullshit! Enjoy being you
we are made of atoms, the whole world, our furniture, our skin, the planet and the universe.
even jws and god-loving exjws in this forum accept it.. but atoms are made of smaller particles, electrons, protons, neutrons.
but what are those particles really?
What do you see in this picture?
Do you see the young lady facing away? Or do you see the old lady looking down?
What is real?
They both are, of course. Both the young lady and the old lady exist in this picture. It’s an optical illusion.
Some people will see a young lady looking away in the picture while other people will see an old lady looking down. Depending on how you look at it, part of the picture might be the young woman’s nose and eyelash, or it might be a wart on the old woman’s nose. What is the young woman’s ear might be the old woman’s eye. What is the young woman’s necklace might be the old woman’s mouth.
The picture itself hasn’t changed. Your mind just emphasizes different parts of it to make it real for you.
If we perceive something to be real, does that make it real? If I perceive myself to be a really good writer, does that fit with reality? Do others perceive me that way, or am I just fooling myself? If it’s my reality, does that make it real?
Here’s another example. How do you perceive your ‘worth’ money-wise?
If you think of yourself as a hard worker and feel that you are ‘worth’, let’s say $50,000 per year, when someone comes along and is willing to pay you, let’s say $85,000, it changes your perception of yourself. (I’m not talking about me in this example)
Your eyes are opened to the possibilities. Wow, my skills are worth $85, 000!
This is why I like reading books on success, personal development, finance, and other genres that get you to change your perception about the world, your life, and your possibilities.
By changing your perception, you change your reality.
Brian Tracy’s ‘ Change Your Thinking, Change Your Life ‘ book is a book that has such a profound impact on my thinking. Some of the more practical concepts that I’ve taken from this book are:
When you believe something to be true, it becomes true for you, whatever the fact may be. “You are not what you think you are, but what you think, you are.”
The fact is that you can never earn much more or less than your self-concept level of income. If you want to make more money, you have to change your beliefs about yourself relative to income and money.
Your aim is to become so confident, courageous, strong, and resolute that you can set any goal for yourself with the firm knowledge that you can learn what you need to learn, and do what you need to do, to eventually achieve it.
The more different things you do that are likely to help you to achieve your goal, the more likely it is you will do the right thing at the right time.
Prosperous and wealthy people have a prosperous and wealthy mind-set. When you develop the same mind-set that other successful people have, you will soon enjoy the same results and experiences that they do.
The greatest wealth you could possibly possess is between your ears. You can create an unlimited future for yourself by tapping into your brainpower and channeling it, like a powerful current, to energize your life and get you anything you really want.
If you generate 20 ideas per day, 5 days per week, 50 weeks per year, you will come up with an astounding total of 5,000 new ideas to improve your life and work each year.
The most important principle of human life is that you become what you think about most of the time. The most successful men and women report the same things. They think about what they want and how to get it most of the time.
In the book, Brian Tracy outlines 6 steps to achieving any goal. They are:
Step 1: Decide exactly what you want
Step 2: Write down your goals
Step 3: Be willing to pay the price
Step 4: Make a detailed plan
Step 5: Take action on your plan
Step 6: Do something every day
Step 7: Never give up
I think Step 1 is the hardest. Once you decide what it is that you want, the other steps just seem to fall into place. At least that’s my experience. If you want something badly enough, chances are that you will do what it takes to achieve it. You will invest in yourself. You will pay the price, whatever it is.
Isn’t it true that many people simply do not want to change that much?
But without change, we become stagnant. Our lives become small.
We do not see see things as they are, we see things as we are. — Anais Nin
How about you? Are you ready to make your perceptions your reality?
we are made of atoms, the whole world, our furniture, our skin, the planet and the universe.
even jws and god-loving exjws in this forum accept it.. but atoms are made of smaller particles, electrons, protons, neutrons.
but what are those particles really?
You think, therefore you are... meaning you exist. Those people in ignorance, without questioning or critical thinking don't really exist.
the story of the miners seems to be causing a media frenzy.
i actually wouldn't pay too much attention to the stories.
but i came across something that caught my attention because it may relate to our experience after becoming free from a cult.
funnyface,
How do you know? How can you back that up if you don't mind me asking.... I just don't want to speculate unless we know for sure. THanks!
