Wow that was interesting about women.
Thanks sis!!!!!
I guess I would have to stay pregnant every year to protect my mouth, lol ha ha ha
Love ya justmom
to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.
this will be the second "reward" that i have the privilege of sharing with you today.
if you recall, i have shared with you that virtually every time i've gone through a fairly grueling "battle" for our lord... i receive a "reward".
Wow that was interesting about women.
Thanks sis!!!!!
I guess I would have to stay pregnant every year to protect my mouth, lol ha ha ha
Love ya justmom
....to be an apostate is just as terrible a thing to the wtbs as being a witch or a sorcerer.. .
if the wtbs could legally get away with it, they would literally behead or stone to death all of us just like in mideaval times.. how i know so.
just monday this week a saudi arabian woman was beheaded on charges of being a witch ( they found a book on sorcery and some vials of "healing potions") as she claimed to be a healer.. philip luther, interin direct of amnesty international, said "charges of witchcraft and sorcery are not defined as crimes in saudi arabia".
....To be an Apostate is just as terrible a thing to the WTBS as being a Witch or a Sorcerer.
If the WTBS could legally get away with it, they would literally behead or stone to death all of us just like in mideaval times.
How I know so. Just Monday this week a Saudi Arabian woman was beheaded on charges of being a witch ( they found a book on sorcery and some vials of "healing potions") as she claimed to be a healer.
Philip Luther, Interin direct of Amnesty International, said "Charges of witchcraft and sorcery are NOT defined as crimes in Saudi Arabia". He was appalled that they did this!
He said further, "A Charge of sorcery is often used by the Saudi Government as a SMOKESCREEN under which they punish people for excercising FREEDOM OF SPEECH". (sound familar)
79 people this year so far have been executed!
Wondering.....if any were disfellowshipped witnesses.......
So...our freedom of speech so far is a wonderful thing even if we lost it in the organization for exposing to them who they are! We can take advantage of it on here, and to each other. Let make it a meaningful voice!
Lots of Love
justmom
i used to be just like many of you---i was scared to read/hear/see anything that didn't put the jw's in a positive light.
i was raised as a witness and believed everything they taught wholeheartedly and 110%.
don't let other poster's or even the jw's discourage you from investigating the 'truth' about the watchtower society.
Hello question everything:
You sound so familar. We too were raised in the organization and were very strong witnesses. my husband even started partaking at 30 years inside (in 1988) and in Dec 1997 the light went on and holy spirit led us out and everything we had been taught was turned upside down. (flip it) Instead of looking through the window at all other religions when you read let it be a 'mirror' for them. After all....they call themselves 'true Israel'..
But now....it is 'truly fulfillment of what we were raised to..."walk by faith not by sight" "Jah does NOT dwell in handmade temples" "Jesus said My sheep know MY voice and I lead them out" "He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me" (not the WTBS) and it is for ANYONE! "God is a spirit and we must worship him in Spirit and truth"...
The challenge is.... Can we as Israel do this?? now that we may have been led up outta egypt and out in the wilderness? Can we allow ourselves to follow the 'cloud and pillar of fire'??
Or will we murmer that it was much easier in Egypt (our lives were told what to do,eat,wear,watch etc..)
Will we complain about the manna? (CHRIST?TRUTH) and become tired that we cannot "SEE" anything so we ask for a king (like Saul) or even build a golden calf again (the WTBS) and become slaves all over again.
Remember our Lord is NOT delaying..It is us who tire out and choose to get distracted again. Faith is hard! He said is was!
There is NO reason to search for any other building to worship through. Jaheshua is it! He is the one that will NEVER lie, mislead, or decieve us again! The call is out there from Him. He says "COME TO ME" those who are tired. He will lift that yoke and refresh you and take you in." His voice is loud and clear. But can we have faith to hear it?
thoughts
justmom (who gets distracted, lacks faith and is so grateful He never gives up on us!)
i see a few want to believe in the watchtower's view of bible prophecy, scriptural understandings and the view that the "anointed remnant" dispense the "spiritual food at the proper time".. how would you refute those views?.
There are a lot of good replies....
There is only ONE Truth and it is "The Christ" not any visible organization anymore since 70 c.e. Jesus said " I am the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE. Noone gets to the father except through ME" Even our brother Peter in the bible said"WHOM (notwhere) shall we turn away to. YOU (Christ) have the sayings of everlasting life"
Most all of their prohecies have not appeared as they had predicted so they change dates and times and then call it "new light" iT IS EITHER TRUTH OR IT ISN'T. And it is not on little issues it is HUGE foundational doctrine!
Jehovah doesn't make mistakes!
The fact that only 144,000 partake is huge... It was no problem until 1935 when more witnesses starting coming in than that and partaking and they didn't know what to do so then it was "OOhh" there is millions who will live on earth and not be partakers so those should sorta think about discontinuing partaking. There was and always have been only "One faith ONE HOPE One baptism!
Jesus said in John chapter 6 that He was the bread from heaven. And ANYONE that eats has everlasting life, a resurrection, and stays in union with him.
The perfect example set forth for us is in 1Corinthians 10: 1-4. When Moses left Egypt Israel and a 'vast mixed' company went with him into the wilderness. All ate the manna. All ate from the rockmass which represented Christ! That included levites (priests) men, women, children, and non-israelites (egyptians).
The term paradise in the Bible has reference to "the third heaven" it is nothing on earth. There is no "you will live in paradise on earth" 2 Corinthians 12:4, Revelation 2:7
Armaggedon or Gods war (only one not two) is not immediately after the tribulation, it is at the END of the thousand year milleneum. Christs return is after the tribulation (second coming) Not in 1914.. Matthew 24 and 25
Revelation 20:7-9 Gog and Magog gathered for "The War"
The list goes on and on!!!~!!!!
jus something to chew on,...
justmom (thank you for your patience . I am not to good on computers) from the generation when computers and internet were demonized. lol
is anyone willing to send me a copy of the july 15, 2011 watchtower?
i am writing a law article on the mature minor doctrine, and i want to include information from this magazine, especially regarding the picture of the young boy getting baptized.
i need a hard copy to document the picture.. if so, please pm me.. thanks,.
What in the heck is the REAL purpose of the new simplified Watchtower?
It has nothing REALLY to do with the english being easier to understand.
The crap that they keep teaching and "changing as new understanding" is what is hard to undertstand and stomach.
Heeelllooo its not the language.....ITS THE MESSAGE!!!!
These poor blind souls who LIKE to drink this kool-aid continually amazes me!
justathought justmom
has the number of partakers been released for 2011?
how much longer do we have to wait?.
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It will probably be released when they come up with more "new light" as to why the numbers keep on increasing... lol
justmom
a relative of mine who is disfellowshipped for having a baby out of wedlock and living with the babys daddy has a sister who is an active jehovahs witness.
she has had nothing to do with her newborn neice for 9 months and outta the blue textes who sister and asks her to meet at a. restaurant as they are in town and would like to see the baby.
the mom out of love gave in so her nephews could see their cousin whom they'll never know.
A relative of mine who is disfellowshipped for having a baby out of wedlock and living with the babys daddy has a sister who is an active jehovahs witness. She has had NOTHING to do with her newborn neice for 9 months and outta the blue textes who sister and asks her to meet at a
restaurant as they are in town and would like to see the baby. The mom out of love gave in so her nephews could see their cousin whom they'll never know. When she arrived at the restaurant the witness sister said can we take the baby and play with her and you have to sit at the other
end of the restaurant away from us. She also said, we cannot share a "meal" with you according to the bible and you know why....But can we buy you a drink from the bar?????? OMG imagine that! (can't eat but the alcoholics can buy her a drink)
FLIPPIN HYPOCRITES!
Then....the nextday texted (which am I crazy or is that association)?????? and said she feels guilty and can't see her again with the baby. Its toooo hard on Her boys to see a cousin they'll never grow up knowing. Hellooo it WAS Her idea to begin with.
So thought maybe next time the worldly boyfriend could bring the baby and hang out with them instead so as not to feel guilty.. (now its worldly association).. lol
The sister who is disfellowshipped and had a moment of weakness said "Go to Hell"..that will never happen. You arranged for this and now made this MY fault cuz your heartbroken over your boys being confused as to who they can and can't associate with in the family.
Wow! You talk about some screwed up group of folks and sad to say, their gonna be around for a LONG time gulpin down that kool-aid.....
Just wanted to share something I'm sure all of you have experienced at some time
justmom
i have been hitting a brick wall trying to pry my boyfriend away from this stuff.
it just makes me cry that it's so obvious to me how wrong it is, and he's not even batting an eyelash.
he knows about all of the scandals, all of the false prophecies, the coverup of sexual predators, that elders tell abuse victims to stay with their spouses, that they dishonestly use sources, and he just doesn't care.
Hello and I am so sorry for your frustration but I have to agree with Shades of Grey.....
We can't make people "see" if they don't want to or are not ready to. If it is Jah's will you will be directed to either tell him or he will ask. Example has always been the best key and the sharing of a few major things as you have done and then let it be! If his heart is receptive the questions will arise and his heart and spirit will start to see through it. It took me 30 years to finally click and when it did "WoW" the light went on!!! lol
Continue to pray and be patient.
Thoughts to you
justmom
i'm afraid this is a shameless plug for my latest article on www.jwstruggle.com - a relevant and non-commercial website!!.
i was asked to write an article on john 6:68 where peter famously told jesus, "lord, whom shall we go away to?
you have sayings of everlasting life..." as you may be aware, the society frequently uses this scripture to try to convince those who are doubting that there is nowhere for them to go to if they decide to flee the organization.
i'm afraid this is a shameless plug for my latest article on www.jwstruggle.com - a relevant and non-commercial website!!.
i was asked to write an article on john 6:68 where peter famously told jesus, "lord, whom shall we go away to?
you have sayings of everlasting life..." as you may be aware, the society frequently uses this scripture to try to convince those who are doubting that there is nowhere for them to go to if they decide to flee the organization.