The day I left I was hoping to see some footie instead of being at a the meeting - they didn't show the game on TV so missed my team winning a trophy. Two years later I was at the game and watched them lift it again on my birthday. A few beers were had that day. All good things come to those who wait.
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i just wanna post post this.
to all congregations.
re: thirty-hour quota for auxiliary pioneering.
label licker - welcome!
Never heard that myth - but I totally believe it - bet you live more than a little way from Bethel as that tends to be how such crazy ideas are tolerated. Back in the day when people's hours were put on a chart on the notice board (going back 50 or 60 years) it encouraged competition and judgement. Seems like your congregation has started that up all over again.
How were the paper cutouts displayed on the chart? Were the elders families nearer the top and those less popular at the bottom or was it strictly alphabetical?
Hilarious!
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i just wanna post post this.
to all congregations.
re: thirty-hour quota for auxiliary pioneering.
auxiliary pioneers will be awarded bonus hours during the week of the circuit overseer's visit. For every hour of field service you complete you will be awarded another hour for free*. Also if you work with the circuit overseer you will be awarded triple hours. This does not extend to working with his wife. If you work with a district overseer you get quadruple hours**.
*this offer applies to your local congregation and cannot be redeemed by gatecrashing a neighbouring congregation's CO visit. This only applies to those in good standing in the congregation.
**this offer may be withdrawn without prior notice - please contact the WBTS for terms and conditions.
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anyone interested in sport will be aware of lance armstrong's final admission to taking banned substances to win the tour de france 7 times.
he was a fraud.
his many fans, fans of cycling and people who also suffered cancer that looked up to him and his incredible achievements have given lots of different reactions to his confession.
"I told a lie and just repeated it" Really? He continued taking drugs for a decade, he lied about it a dozens of different ways to many people over many years. He is keen on politics - he is trying to save his future political career. I think his line of justification shows he has a considerable aptitude for the job - but may never be trusted enough to hold office.
If the WBTS made a completely honest confession "we don't know what we're doing - we made it all up - we're a bunch of fake rich men." I'd tip my hat to them and say thank you very much. They'd never hear another word from me. It's their blatant arrogance, brazen dare I say, that makes me think they'll refuse to ever apologise until they're forced into a corner when even their followers know they're lying. Then it will be too late to be forgiven.
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anyone interested in sport will be aware of lance armstrong's final admission to taking banned substances to win the tour de france 7 times.
he was a fraud.
his many fans, fans of cycling and people who also suffered cancer that looked up to him and his incredible achievements have given lots of different reactions to his confession.
Anyone interested in sport will be aware of Lance Armstrong's final admission to taking banned substances to win the Tour de France 7 times. He was a fraud. His many fans, fans of cycling and people who also suffered cancer that looked up to him and his incredible achievements have given lots of different reactions to his confession. Support, disappointment, anger.
I'm not comparing him to the WBTS but what would it be like for it's followers to hear an admission of guilt that they had misled people - that the truth was a lie? Most on this site have come to that understanding - but to hear the GB admit they misled and are a fraud? How would it really make you feel?
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helpful techniques for getting in your pioneer time.. .
remember: there is a time for everything under the sun.. .
http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=453&itemid=8.
priceless! I knew a few who adopted a lot of the above. I was honest as a pioneer but towards the end of my fade I used to diddle my report by adopting the following approach:
Turn up at well attended group. Pretend I already had some not homes to complete or some calls and go off in the car. I then drove into the distance a long way away and went out for the day.
Off topic but this worked a treat until the final time I went out on FS and the PO collared me to work with him - he never took no for an answer so rather than try and make excuses I was really positive. My confidence disappeared when he asked me a heap of stuff about the magazines and which presentations had been successful. Thankfully you know pretty much how every awake article will pan out just by those titles "when will there be an end to suffering?", "when will mankind find peace?", "when will there be an end to stupid awake titles?"
I think I tried a little self-deprecation "oh I thought this magazine wouldn't appeal to people so didn't offer it and when it was all I had left to place I tried it and I placed them at 3 houses in a row - I should have had more faith - do you know if anyone has any spare copies because I'd love some more". Anyway the one hour seemed to pass ok and that was it - the last time I ever had to bother anyone on FS ever again.
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how often did i hear those words at circuit or district assemblies - that pioneering was the best job in the world?
how often did i hear a fake job advert for pioneering where there was 100% job satisfaction working for the most powerful person in the universe and you'd get to travel the world and live forever.... i've done both jobs and would say that the job advert should more honestly read like this:.
secular job.
Being constantly told you're a qualified teacher and NEVER feeling like one.
so true - i couldn't teach - i didn't know anything so how could i teach anything? It wasn't just my time i was wasting - a little bit of every householder i ever met.
how often did i hear those words at circuit or district assemblies - that pioneering was the best job in the world?
how often did i hear a fake job advert for pioneering where there was 100% job satisfaction working for the most powerful person in the universe and you'd get to travel the world and live forever.... i've done both jobs and would say that the job advert should more honestly read like this:.
secular job.
when I asked to come off as a pioneer thankfully I wasn't hounded out by a CO or burned-out. Just bored. I mentioned it to an elder after the meeting and his response was "ok". that was it. I was expecting a bit of drama - a "well we will need to discuss this with with the BOE and give you a shepherding call" or "well done for all your hard work". Something more than "ok". In hindsight I'm grateful of course not to have had a backlash.
I did have "some" good times on service - had a real laugh at times and got some confidence and equally I've had some terrible times at work but generally my first post is exactly what i think of pioneering and some of your experiences back this up!
thanks for sharing!
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how often did i hear those words at circuit or district assemblies - that pioneering was the best job in the world?
how often did i hear a fake job advert for pioneering where there was 100% job satisfaction working for the most powerful person in the universe and you'd get to travel the world and live forever.... i've done both jobs and would say that the job advert should more honestly read like this:.
secular job.
feelings of depression were because I obviously had a guilty concience and needed to sort myself out and that my low hours were a sign of Jehovah's spirit not being with me
ambersun - your comments are spot on with this topic - exactly about what it is like to do the job of pioneering. Interesting logic from the CO - he din't approve of you so your hardships are a result of your guilt and lack of faith. If he did approve of you I'm sure your hardships would be a result of being tested because of your excellent faith.
Isn't it terrible you have to go through something so bad until you finally realise you are doing a pointless, thankless job. The lovebombing and recognition is all at the start - when people join or when they start pioneering - pretty soon you're on your own and just someone to complain about and victimise.
Sisters are certainly a lower class to males in the truth - that is what gets reinforced every meeting. As a young MS I'd take a FS group with experienced pioneer sisters and they had to listen to me just because i was male - rubbish. I've since worked for some amazingly talented women and I know that if they were JW's their skills and opinions would be worthless.
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how often did i hear those words at circuit or district assemblies - that pioneering was the best job in the world?
how often did i hear a fake job advert for pioneering where there was 100% job satisfaction working for the most powerful person in the universe and you'd get to travel the world and live forever.... i've done both jobs and would say that the job advert should more honestly read like this:.
secular job.
Hmmm WTWizard - I remember those experiences too - heard one pioneers talking about how they economised by buying a good quality coat and shoes before they stopped working and how they were still lasting well.
I knew quite a few pioneers who were on benefits and were careful on how much they earned so they could get the max from the government to pay for their rent and food. Not sure the householders would have been so keen to be told their taxes were going to people who knocked on their doors and told them they wouldn't live through armageddon because they loved money.
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