Posts by Chaserious

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Do they still follow the same backwards policy on AIDS?

by Chaserious in

i was browsing through some of the boe letters (made available here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/243938/1/all-letters-to-elders-from-the-branch-1981-2012-boe) and came across the 3/15/96 letter about persons with communicable diseases.

it specifically mentions aids several times in the letter and seems to be primarily targeted at that population.

among other gems:.

Chaserious

It's not like it has the same success rate as us mentally diseased in infecting "true christians".

lol

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Jw's and the third branch of government

by trujw in

i have always wanted to ask a jw how many branches of government their are?

most likley they would be hard pressed to know that there are three.

then i would like to ask why is it ok to run and participate in one branch proudly ( the judicial) but have nothing to do with the other two.

Chaserious

I agree with you that not running for City Council because they say so is dumb. Their whole list of rules is stupid, about when you can go into a church for your job, how much relation you can have to tobacco or defense companies, no jobs where you carry a gun, etc. At the same time, they don't give a hoot about whether your job is generally socially conscious or does any good for the world or community, as long as it falls within their black and white rules.

Just saying that if I knew a lot of things from this site when I was a JW, it would have made me scratch my head, but I think I would have laughed at the idea that it's hypocritical that they file lawsuits. I mean, if you file a lawsuit for compensation because someone ran you over and broke your leg, or to get money that Aunt Mildred left you in her will, if you ask the average person on the street they are going to say that you're not acting in a "political" manner, even though the government is involved.

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Amway

by enigma1863 in

i was curious, how many jws end up getting caught up in pyramid scemes like amway.

i was caught up in there online program quixstar for a little while several years ago.

i noticed there are several similarities between amway and a cult..

Chaserious

I actually feel sorry for my friend, Cyber JC. He's a nice guy. If despite hawking his business at every possible social opportunity, and losing friends over it because they are tired of hearing how LegalShield is the best thing since sliced bread he has to beg for crappy handyman projects to make ends meet, I don't think it's because of " looking to fulfill their dreams" as you say.. it's because he got in at the bottom of the pyramid.

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Amway

by enigma1863 in

i was curious, how many jws end up getting caught up in pyramid scemes like amway.

i was caught up in there online program quixstar for a little while several years ago.

i noticed there are several similarities between amway and a cult..

Chaserious

Lol, I got a good laugh at your post, Cyber JC. Just because you and the $250k super classy platinum ring earner made money doesn't mean these things are solid businesses. It just means you both probably got in here:

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Do they still follow the same backwards policy on AIDS?

by Chaserious in

i was browsing through some of the boe letters (made available here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/243938/1/all-letters-to-elders-from-the-branch-1981-2012-boe) and came across the 3/15/96 letter about persons with communicable diseases.

it specifically mentions aids several times in the letter and seems to be primarily targeted at that population.

among other gems:.

Chaserious

l p, I don't think you can get HIV from a swimming pool no matter what.

"Can I get HIV from swimming pools or hot tubs?

No. HIV cannot live in a hot tub or swimming pool. There have been no cases of HIV transmission through swimming pools or hot tubs."

http://www.health.ny.gov/diseases/aids/facts/questions/transmission.htm

Also:

http://www.acwn.org/transmission.html

http://healthyliving.msn.com/diseases/aids-hiv/how-hiv-spreads-myths-and-facts-1

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Jw's and the third branch of government

by trujw in

i have always wanted to ask a jw how many branches of government their are?

most likley they would be hard pressed to know that there are three.

then i would like to ask why is it ok to run and participate in one branch proudly ( the judicial) but have nothing to do with the other two.

Chaserious

Fine, trujw, but you would never convince a JW of hypocrisy using this sketchy logic. By your definition, the IRS is also political. So filing a tax return would be political. But we have to pay back Caesar's things to Caesar. Mark 12:17. Jesus endorsed paying taxes. Therefore that must not have been what he meant when he said to be no part of the world. Also, Paul legally defended the good news (Phil 1:7). Therefore, filing lawsuits must also not have been what no part of the world means. See, we are not picking and choosing based on what suits us. All we are doing is following the Bible... A judge is no more political than the IRS, the trashman, the social security department, and all of the other parts of Caesar's world we have to deal with.. and so on and so forth.

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Amway

by enigma1863 in

i was curious, how many jws end up getting caught up in pyramid scemes like amway.

i was caught up in there online program quixstar for a little while several years ago.

i noticed there are several similarities between amway and a cult..

Chaserious

Since you asked, I know a lot more people who didn't make anything out of these businesses, and almost nobody who was successful. I have this one guy I went to high school with who is involved with an especially cult-like MLM, called Legal Shield. He posts shit on Facebook like 10 times a day saying how great it is. He's even inboxed me several times to get me to sign up as a marketer. What makes it especially cult-like is that he is always posting about associates who won their "gold $250k big earner ring" or double platinum jacket" or some other stupid shit like that. Anything that bases prestige on rings and jackets is suspect in my book. As least in the WTS you can get a title like elder or MTS grad or something. Whenever someone wishes him happy birthday or anything on FB, his response is always something like "Thanks, when can we meet for 20 minutes so I can show you the earning opportunity of a lifetime?" It's pathetic, really. Oh, and once in a while, he will put up some post like "If anyone needs handyman work done, I'm available. No job too small. Need the cash right now." lol

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Jw's and the third branch of government

by trujw in

i have always wanted to ask a jw how many branches of government their are?

most likley they would be hard pressed to know that there are three.

then i would like to ask why is it ok to run and participate in one branch proudly ( the judicial) but have nothing to do with the other two.

Chaserious

The WT has appealed to the Supreme Court on several occasions, which directly affects how laws are interpeted and carried out.

They would just say that Paul appealed to Caesar too.

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Amway

by enigma1863 in

i was curious, how many jws end up getting caught up in pyramid scemes like amway.

i was caught up in there online program quixstar for a little while several years ago.

i noticed there are several similarities between amway and a cult..

Chaserious

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Jw's and the third branch of government

by trujw in

i have always wanted to ask a jw how many branches of government their are?

most likley they would be hard pressed to know that there are three.

then i would like to ask why is it ok to run and participate in one branch proudly ( the judicial) but have nothing to do with the other two.

Chaserious

Branch of government does not equal political. Are the people who collect your garbage political? They are ultimately put in their positions by politicians who are elected. Also, courts don't decide legislative bills or what becomes law. Congress and state legislatures do that. Judges decide how the laws apply to various sets of facts. In some states judges are elected, so you could say they are political there. But in other states and the federal government they are not elected, and not political. In fact, in the U.S., federal judges (as well as their law clerks) are not allowed to campaign for any person running for elected position. They can't even put a sign on their lawn saying to vote for someone. Because they are not allowed to be outwardly political.

Yes, JWs are big hypocrites, but I think you are barking up the wrong tree with this.