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  Obama and Muslims

  by Shanagirl1 in

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  in audacity of hope he writes: i will stand with the muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

  the quote comes from page 261 of the paperback edition of the audacity of hope.. he couildn't march in solidarity.

  yesterday the "political winds shift" happened.

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  Chaserious

  What a perfect example of how the vitriolic Obama haters never let minor things like facts get in their way.
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  Conti Appeal Oral Arguments slated for 9 A.M., Jan. 14, 2014. Recap of Defendant Watchtower's Complaint of Errors for your info.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  conti appeal hearing-summary of watchtowers complaint of errors with plaintiff's reply.

  the following statements were taken from the introduction of respondents brief a136641 -attorney richard simons' response for plaintiff.

  defendants argue that the affirmative duty imposed by the trial court impinges on their religious freedom.

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  Chaserious

  Let's say it goes all the way to CA Supreme Court and WT loses there.  Can WT then try taking it to the US Supreme Court? 

  Yes, although they cannot appeal the special relationship/duty to warn issue to the US Supreme Court, which is probably the issue that the CA appeal court will be most interested in (and probably their strongest argument on appeal).  Since that relates only to state law, the Supreme Court cannot hear that issue. Here is a link to the jwleaks post of the WTS appeal brief, which outlines the six grounds for appeal raised by WTS.  It appears to me that in theory, four of the other six arguments aside from the duty to warn issue could be appealed to the US Supreme Court. 

  Technically, they could  ask the US Supreme Court to hear the case even if the CA Supreme Court declines to hear the appeal. 

  
  
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  Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.

  this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.

  it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.

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  Chaserious

  @Chaserious i was talking about long term planning. In my country it has been like that for the last 3 decades.. people need higher education here in order to get a decent job.

  Yes, and don't you think in 5 or 10 or 20 years you will also need higher education to get a decent job in North America (to the extent you don't already). 18 year olds who listen to the GB now will regret it as higher education becomes more and more important.
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  Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.

  this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.

  it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.

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  Chaserious

  Educational systems and job opportunities differ per country. So local circumstances play a role in the decisions whether  it is wise to follow higher education or not.

  That is kind of short sighted, isn't it? Whether or not to get a college education impacts not only someone's ability to immediately find work in the current job market, but the next 40-50 years of her life. Just because you can find unskilled or trade work now when you are 20 doesn't mean it will be there when you are 40.

  Unless you really want to take your chances that "the end" is right around the corner, as JW who have been foregoing college for generations have.
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  Who Benefits from the Multi-Billion Dollar Real Estate Empire that is WT?

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this thread is to formally address this subject.

  this is for forum members and especially for lurkers (current witnesses reading this in secret).

  please feel free to post any additional points.. there are a lot of changes happening in wt land.

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  Chaserious

  In before Illuminati, Rothschilds, RandCam, Freemasons, and whoever shot JFK.
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  Looks like ABC New York got the okay.

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

  12/19/2014order filed.

  upon due consideration, the media request of applicant abc news to make a video recording of oral argument in the above-referenced appeal is granted.

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  Chaserious

  It is kind of at the eleventh hour, but I would think that if someone who can make a bona fide claim to being a member of the media  (such as running or contributing to a blog, website, etc) wished to attend, they too could get permission to record.  

  I was a court employee for a year and we were very careful about giving equal access rights to all members of the media, whether they be a lone blogger or a major newspaper reporter.
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  Upcoming meeting Re: KH Construction

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  fresh from the "press":to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: local design/construction department broadcastdear brothers:the work of constructing and maintaining theocratic facilities throughout the unitedstates branch territory is indeed great!

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  29:1) with this in mind, we are pleased to informyou of a special meeting to be presented on saturday, january 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. easternstandard time (est) to all elders and circuit overseers in the united states branch territory.the meeting will be approximately two and a half hours in length and will includepresentations by members of the local design/construction department, the united statesbranch committee, the worldwide design/construction department, and a member of the governingbody.

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  Chaserious

  Will the new design feature a large, blinking jw.org sign on the roofs?
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  "You insulted our Prophet" similarities with WTS / Paris attacks

  by AFRIKANMAN in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "this is from the nov. 15th 1952 question from readers.

  this is directly from the cd btw:

  questions from readers in the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshipped ,how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?p.c.,ontario, canada.

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  Chaserious

  Kind of a weak comparion.. it says there that God's law through Christ forbids us from killing them.

  It is kind of disgusting  the contempt with which they describe how disfellowshipped people deserve to die, though.  The connection to radical Islam is not there however.
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  Je Suis Charlie

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. social
  2. current

  this incident in paris makes me feel absolutely furious.

  yes i feel desperately sorry for the victims and their families no one should have to deal with that.

  the thing that makes me feel absolutely incandescent though is the attack on freedom of speech and expression.

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  Chaserious

  I think countries have the power to shut down religions that pose a threat to the protection of its inherent citizens who are incompliance to those laws of the land.

  If a government were to ban Islam, do you really think these extremist animals would just pack up and work 9-5 in a cubicle somewhere?  If anything, it would probably fan the flames of their persecution complex and need for vengeance.  A lot of them are trained and belong to terror cells in Muslim countries anyway.  I would suspect if they are not raised this way, more are radicalized on the internet than in a mosque.  

  There isn't an easy answer to terrorism, and realistically such a barbaric attack probably does chill free speech to some extent, as some have observed.  Hopefully the resolve of the French people and free societies everywhere won't allow that to happen.  But I can't imagine that outlawing a religion, the majority of whose adherents are not terrorists, would have any deterrent effect. 
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  Conti Appeal Oral Arguments slated for 9 A.M., Jan. 14, 2014. Recap of Defendant Watchtower's Complaint of Errors for your info.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  conti appeal hearing-summary of watchtowers complaint of errors with plaintiff's reply.

  the following statements were taken from the introduction of respondents brief a136641 -attorney richard simons' response for plaintiff.

  defendants argue that the affirmative duty imposed by the trial court impinges on their religious freedom.

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  Chaserious

  Yes, let's hope for a good outcome for Ms. Conti after all of this.