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  Stop Putting Apostate Stickers On My Literature! They "Cost Lots of Money!"

  by AuntConnie in

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  "true story" the circuit overseer came to our kingdom hall and read us the riot act (local needs style) "magazines of this quality are not free, they cost money and we are not generating enough donations to defray the cost of the magazines(or running the top of the line printing presses) i get my ass out of bed to place literature in the laundray cleaning, coin opperated shops and some asshole puts his apostate stickers on our magazines.

  do you know how hard it is to get up at 6:00 am and how expensive those magazines are costing the organization to print?

  please stop defiling our literature, i dont post hateful stickers on your website so please leave my magazines alone.

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  Chaserious

  What is this I don't even
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  Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?

  by hamsterbait in

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  we all know that beth hell monitors this site.. they have repeatedly had sites shut down for quoting large portions of their litterature.

  not this one.. do you think this board enables them to keep a finger on the pulse of what is going on in ex and aposto land?

  hb.

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  I am not an IP expert. But as I understand it, a Wikipedia page would be copyrighted just like any other intellectual property. However, Wikipedia is a notable opponent of cyberproperty policing. They were very vocal against SOPA when it was proposed in the House. As a result of their philosophy, they explicitly developed a "Creative Commons Deed", available here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License. It appears that this would grant you permission to copy and paste an entire Wikipedia page as long as you attribute the source properly.

  As I understand it, the DMCA only applies to US-based ISPs and search engines. It's an extrajudicial mechanism that prevents copyright holders from having to litigate every time they want to get rid of a violation. Basically, they notify the host of the "offending" material, and if that entity removes the material or resolves it quickly with the actual alleged violator, the host is insulated from liability. If a copyright holder really wants to block access to content hosted outside of the U.S., they can get an injunction against domestic ISPs to block traffic to the site under the DMCA. I imagine this is rarely done since it's probably a lot more expensive than just sending a takedown notice. The alleged violator can also be sued, but you run into the jurisdictional issues. I don't know if someone running a site accessed in the U.S. is amenable to jurisdiction in the U.S. But the real hammer that copyright holders want to use is the takedown mechanism. They don't want to litigate; it would be like trying to swat flies with a sledgehammer.
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  Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?

  by hamsterbait in

  1. jw
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  we all know that beth hell monitors this site.. they have repeatedly had sites shut down for quoting large portions of their litterature.

  not this one.. do you think this board enables them to keep a finger on the pulse of what is going on in ex and aposto land?

  hb.

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  Chaserious

  I can't imagine that anyone is going to write a paper and cite a bunch of scholarly articles just to post it here, but takedowns don't explicitly apply to non-U.S. hosts. However, often there are a number of links in the cyber chain between website and viewer, some of which might be U.S. based, and if the copyright holder sends out takedown notices to all of them, one of them might be willing to block access.

  It also was helpful to many sites, possibly this one included, that SOPA and PIPA did not pass and evidently died in committee. Those pieces of legislation were designed to allow enhanced enforcement against sites based outside of the U.S. that violate U.S. copyright law. Among other things, they would have required search engines not to find "offending" sites, and require U.S. ISPs to block access.
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  Watchtower softens position on Jehovah' Witnesses and blood transfusions? Canadian National Post Story.

  by Balaamsass in

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  without fanfare, jehovahs witnesses quietly soften position on blood transfusionstom blackwell, national post staff | dec 20, 2012 9:59 pm et.

  more from national post staff.

  calgary herald/fileslawrence hughes broke with the witnesses, and the rest of his own family, when it tried to prevent his teenage daughter, bethany, who died in 2002, from receiving a blood transfusion while being treated for cancer.twittergoogle+linkedinemailcommentsmoretumblrpinterestredditdiggfarkitstumbleuponfor years, the jehovahs witnesses fiercely held belief that blood transfusions are contrary to gods will led to emotional and very public disputes, hospitals clashing with parents over whether to infuse sick children.. that long history of messy legal confrontations appears to be vanishing, however, amid changing approaches to the issue on both sides, health-care officials say.. the churchs ban on accepting blood still stands, but some major pediatric hospitals have begun officially acknowledging the parents unorthodox beliefs, while many jehovahs witnesses are signing letters recognizing that doctors may sometimes feel obliged to transfuse, they say.. as institutions show more respect toward parents faith and try harder not to use blood, witnesses often seem eager to avoid involving child-welfare authorities to facilitate transfusions, and more accepting that canadian case law is firmly on the doctors side, some hospital officials say.. they get it that were going to transfuse where its medically necessary.

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  If so, the Letters of Understanding are not evidence of a change in position.

  I didn't charge that it was a recent change. If it's a deviation of the policy from the 1980's or early 1990's, it's still a change. The offical word in the literature used to be that it was akin to rape and transfusions should be resisted at all costs. This hasn't been changed in the publicly distributed WT literature as far as I'm aware. So it could be that this unoffical policy change took place a while back, but is being publicized more widely now.
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  Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?

  by hamsterbait in

  1. jw
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  we all know that beth hell monitors this site.. they have repeatedly had sites shut down for quoting large portions of their litterature.

  not this one.. do you think this board enables them to keep a finger on the pulse of what is going on in ex and aposto land?

  hb.

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  multiple attempts were made to log into my account

  If you have the interest and resources to pursue this, it is a felony in most states to log into someone's e-mail account without permission, and an attempted felony to attempt to do so. People have been prosecuted for this kind of thing.

  http://www.volokh.com/2010/12/27/man-prosecuted-for-reading-wifes-e-mail-without-her-authorization/

  http://communications-media.lawyers.com/privacy-law/Email-Hacking-Is-A-Serious-Crime.html
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  Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?

  by hamsterbait in

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  we all know that beth hell monitors this site.. they have repeatedly had sites shut down for quoting large portions of their litterature.

  not this one.. do you think this board enables them to keep a finger on the pulse of what is going on in ex and aposto land?

  hb.

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  "fair use laws" which are protected by our 2nd amendment.

  Well, technically "fair use" may not be protected by the U.S. Constitution, and certainly not by the Second Amendment, which pertains to bearing arms. But that aside, I think what the OP meant is that forums can be asked to remove voluminous copy-and-paste jobs that violate copyright laws and be shut down if they don't comply, whether the creator of the forum is the one who posted the material or not. I don't know how often Simon has dealt with this if at all, but I think the OP is implying that if they wanted to, there are a number of long WTS literature posts that they could have had removed from this site if they really wanted to police it heavily using the weight of the DMCA.
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  Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?

  by hamsterbait in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all know that beth hell monitors this site.. they have repeatedly had sites shut down for quoting large portions of their litterature.

  not this one.. do you think this board enables them to keep a finger on the pulse of what is going on in ex and aposto land?

  hb.

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  Chaserious

  Interesting stuff, Balaamsass. I wonder if they keep files associating people's real names with their websites/usernames in the case of those DF'd/DA'd who don't try to hide their identities. It wouldn't surprise me. Dubs love to keep files on everything.
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  Publishers Need A Background Check Before Moving To My Kingdom Hall.

  by AuntConnie in

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  background check first.. .

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  How desperate their parents acted by calling the circuit overseer and bethel elders in NY

  You're not trying hard enough to sound authentic anymore, Aunt Connie. I score your most recent post a 4/10. The original one was a 6.5/10. If any parent has ever called Bethel because their child was not invited to a party, I'm the Queen of England. You need to step up your game.
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  Jw.Org - Create An Account. Anyone?

  by FadeToBlack in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone give this a try?

  i was looking at the site for the new light (about gb=fds) when i noticed the 'login' option.

  also didn't see any 'search' option available.

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  Chaserious

  Well then I stand corrected. I hadn't tried to open one. I doubt you are going to have access to additional features though. But keep up posted.
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  Watchtower softens position on Jehovah' Witnesses and blood transfusions? Canadian National Post Story.

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  without fanfare, jehovahs witnesses quietly soften position on blood transfusionstom blackwell, national post staff | dec 20, 2012 9:59 pm et.

  more from national post staff.

  calgary herald/fileslawrence hughes broke with the witnesses, and the rest of his own family, when it tried to prevent his teenage daughter, bethany, who died in 2002, from receiving a blood transfusion while being treated for cancer.twittergoogle+linkedinemailcommentsmoretumblrpinterestredditdiggfarkitstumbleuponfor years, the jehovahs witnesses fiercely held belief that blood transfusions are contrary to gods will led to emotional and very public disputes, hospitals clashing with parents over whether to infuse sick children.. that long history of messy legal confrontations appears to be vanishing, however, amid changing approaches to the issue on both sides, health-care officials say.. the churchs ban on accepting blood still stands, but some major pediatric hospitals have begun officially acknowledging the parents unorthodox beliefs, while many jehovahs witnesses are signing letters recognizing that doctors may sometimes feel obliged to transfuse, they say.. as institutions show more respect toward parents faith and try harder not to use blood, witnesses often seem eager to avoid involving child-welfare authorities to facilitate transfusions, and more accepting that canadian case law is firmly on the doctors side, some hospital officials say.. they get it that were going to transfuse where its medically necessary.

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  why bother litigating a case in which in the end it appears the Witnesses will most likely lose?

  This was not the Watchtower position in the past, so it is a change. They are not litigating because it's an embarrassment to the Watchtower and the parents that they would let their children die over this nonsense. When I was young, they printed articles in the literature likening a blood transfusion to rape and implying that it would be proper for a child who had a blood transfusion forced on her to scream and protest and pull the tubes out of her arms.