Ahh Bettie -- what a troubled life. I'm sad she's gone.
joannadandy
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1950s pinup model Bettie Page dead at 85
by Elsewhere inshe was one of the great ones and will be missed.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/us/12/12/bettie.page.obit/index.html.
1950s pinup model bettie page dead at 85. los angeles, california (cnn) -- legendary pinup queen bettie page died of pneumonia at the age of 85 in a los angeles, california, hospital thursday, a week after suffering a heart attack, according to her agent.. "she captured the imagination of a generation of men and women with her free spirit and unabashed sensuality," said agent mark roesler in a written statement.
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Did this web-site help you leave the organization?
by ecuador injust curious, what percentage of people here actually left the jw org because of this site or similar sites?
do these sites really help people to get out?
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joannadandy
No. Sites like this one helped me work through all the emotions of leaving; fear, anger, loss, frustration, etc. But the choice to leave came before I was on the internet.
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The Life of an Imbred Cow (You Tube Video)
by SnakesInTheTower in.
i needed this laugh... also look for his videos on his cat sparta..those are truly fun.. snakes (.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r85o9ltvafs.
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joannadandy
I love the rolling cow ball...lol
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joannadandy
I'm lucky - the hubby brings me home flowers fairly often, just because. He knows I love flowers, so he likes to just pick some up now and again. It isn't unoriginal - it's a nice way to say, "Hey I was thinking of you today, and I know you like this so here ya are."
I'm not a huge fan of roses personally, to each their own I guess. I just think roses like diamonds are over priced for what they are. I like just bright boquets of mixed flowers. Favorites for me are Gladiolus, Peonies, and Gerbera Daisy's. However like I said -- any are just fine with me.
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suicide and explosion at Kingdom Hall on Sat. July 27
by kool aid man06 ina bizarre explosion at a church east of kansas city killed one man on saturday afternoon.
atf agents said the explosion at the jehovah's witness' kingdom hall on foggy bottom drive was intentionally set, and that the person who died appears to have committed suicide.
witnesses described large amounts of smoke pouring out of the building, which they said was just recently completed.
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joannadandy
Well said purps.
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What a crazy world
by joannadandy inso here is my story, i find it exceedingly funny for some reason - and just proves what a tangled ordeal we're left with even after having been gone for years and years.
ok ordeal is probably too strong a word for this situation - but tangled none-the-less.. first the background: .
i am not a witness, technically never got baptized so therefore my family has a loophole to still talk to memy father was an elder he stepped down when i was like 8 or 9 because as he said, "i am in no way trained or equipped to deal with these people's problems"i'm getting married in septemberthe wedding is going to be in my jw parents backyard and i am marrying a worldly man - who despite this they have learned to like anyway.
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joannadandy
Huh - two replies...guess I should have had "gay" in the title.
Back under my rock I crawl...lol
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What a crazy world
by joannadandy inso here is my story, i find it exceedingly funny for some reason - and just proves what a tangled ordeal we're left with even after having been gone for years and years.
ok ordeal is probably too strong a word for this situation - but tangled none-the-less.. first the background: .
i am not a witness, technically never got baptized so therefore my family has a loophole to still talk to memy father was an elder he stepped down when i was like 8 or 9 because as he said, "i am in no way trained or equipped to deal with these people's problems"i'm getting married in septemberthe wedding is going to be in my jw parents backyard and i am marrying a worldly man - who despite this they have learned to like anyway.
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joannadandy
So here is my story, I find it exceedingly funny for some reason - and just proves what a tangled ordeal we're left with even after having been gone for years and years. Ok ordeal is probably too strong a word for this situation - but tangled none-the-less.
First the background:
- I am not a witness, technically never got baptized so therefore my family has a loophole to still talk to me
- My father was an elder he stepped down when I was like 8 or 9 because as he said, "I am in no way trained or equipped to deal with these people's problems"
- I'm getting married in September
- The wedding is going to be in my JW parents backyard and I am marrying a worldly man - who despite this they have learned to like anyway. (He's just that good!)
- My wedding is going to be officiated by my childhood best friend (now also an ex-jw) who has begun a side business of performing marriages for people who aren't exactly religious per say but would like more than just a justice of the peace. Ours was supposed to be her first wedding, but she's put her name on a few local wedding websites and has already performed 6 marriages before ours. (Awesome!)
- Another childhood friend (who's had his share of problems, but found himself a nice JW girl to marry) is getting married the weekend after me.
- Since his family was extremely close to mine (My parents brought his parents into the "Truth") and because they are not getting married in a Kingdom Hall (I don't think they are baptized - or she isn't or he isn't or they both aren't I dunno for sure) he wants my father to perform the marriage ceremony.
- Dad hasn't done a marriage since the late 1980's, but in our state once licenced to perform marriages you are always licenced. (A fact I know because of said ex-jw friend who is performing our ceremony).
Whew - got it?
So my father wants to do it, but is nervous. He has no idea what to say. He's very articulate and funny on his own - but he of course feels his ideas wouldn't be good enough.
I am writting our ceremony so I offered that he could plagiarize mine, but of course since I am writing it - it's full of secular rhetoric and any reference to God will be totally absent in mine. We're also doing a letter, wine, and box ceremony. Which means we're getting a bottle of wine and a box. We're writting letters to each other about why we like each other, why we want to marry each other, and what we appreciate about our relationship. We seal them (unread by the other party) and put them in the box - which also gets sealed. If we ever hit a rough patch in our relationship we're supposed to crack open the box, drink our wine, and read each other's letters before we make any rash choices about our relationship. The goal of course is that you won't need to open it until your 10th anniversary - at which time, you can redo the whole event again. I LOVE IT - but yeah probably a little to secular for my father.
Because I read here, I know darn well there is a marriage talk. Hell I've read it (and in another thread MissingLink was kind enough to give me the source again for it.)
So to put my father to ease I tell him, "Look there has to be some outline floating out there for marriage talks." (Knowing there is)
My father says, "I don't think so..."
Me "There has to be, or at least some format they follow, because they always ended up sounding pretty similar to me..." (she says trying to not give too much away).
So here I sit - with marriage talk in hand. I am dying to give it to my father to put him out of misery - but where do I tell him I got it from? I'm thinking I just say, "Hey I googled Jehovah's Witness Marriage Talk, and look what I found! Isn't this great?!"
My father is older and pretty vague on how the internet works, and would never actually try to google something like this himself. He'd probably buy it -- but he's also sat through enough district convention talks to know the internet is littered with Apostates, so where exactly did I get this could potentially come up. He wouldn't give it much thought, but much more savvy Mama - would totally want to know where I found it.
I find it hillarious that I know more about these outlines than my good parents who have been in for more than 35 years.
At this point I am thinking of folding it like a paper airplane and just sailing it through their kitchen window. Then they'll have a cool story about how Jehovah intervened and provided the proper food at the proper time, instead of their lousy non-believing daughter hooking them up with an outline hosted on the internet by Apostates. Heh heh.
Mad props to my home girl Irony for providing me this life situation. It is to laugh...at least I'm amused.
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Wedding Talks
by Alexia ina few weeks ago, there was a thread started on jw funeral talks and how horrible they are, but what about those wedding talks?.
talks that has nothing to do with the couple itself, but an advertisement about how wonderful marriage in jehovahs organization is.
*eye roll * the worst is when they have to bring up sex in the marriage in a wedding talk *barf*.
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joannadandy
Awesome thanks Link!
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So, someone clue me in.
by Blasty inalright, so i'm reading on this site, and i'm not 100% sure what it's about.
it appears to be a bunch of former jw people bashing everything they can get their hands on in relation to jw's.. .
i was brought up as a jw, but when i got older and started to think for myself, i began to realize that i didn't agree with their teachings.
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joannadandy
There are all sorts on this site. Some who do bash everything to do with JW's - some who just don't care what they do, but want some kind of closure and bonding with others who left as well, and everything in between.
You'll find some who became athiest, buddhist, catholic, born-again, and again - everything in between.
I think you'll probably even find some of a very similar background to your own. Welcome to the board.
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Wedding Talks
by Alexia ina few weeks ago, there was a thread started on jw funeral talks and how horrible they are, but what about those wedding talks?.
talks that has nothing to do with the couple itself, but an advertisement about how wonderful marriage in jehovahs organization is.
*eye roll * the worst is when they have to bring up sex in the marriage in a wedding talk *barf*.
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joannadandy
I remember seeing a scan of the wedding talk here a while back...does anyone have the link - I'd love to have it again.