this is a preliminary summary only.
i hope to obtain more details later.. .
all five cases are still within the criminal justice system.
Will this case attract any media attention in Australia? I know there were a few preliminary articles, but it sure seems like the progression of the case would generate a follow up article. Especially the judges comments about charging each member of the GB. What's the old saying. "Sunshine is the best disinfectant?"
The sun is shining in Victoria.
SIAM
i'll keep this brief for now.. long time lurker (4 years or so).. born-in, elder, used on district level (last talk i gave before i left was the baptisimal talk), and lots of hard time put in...before i finally made the move to split.
it's a long stoy, much like many of yours...but with it's own little interesting twists.
more details in the future, perhaps.. as i said, ive lurked here for a while.. its funny: for a long time i'd only come on late at night.
Welcome Unlearn!
It is nice to hear your intro. You are not alone here on the Board. Great Posts. Love you back.
SIAM
can someone explain why jws shun disfellowshipped ones when they are at their meetings (i.e.
making moves to come back)?.
i can understand why you may not want to 'socialize' with ones who do not share your beliefs.. but surely shunning such ones at the 'meetings'; assuming they are not there to cause trouble, is unloving; should they not be welcomed like the prodigal son.. true christians are known by the 'love' they show.
This is probably too much detail....but anywhoo....
I was in an elders meeting once where there was heated discussion about whether or not it was appropriate for the brothers and sisters to give a ride to a carless disfellowshipped woman who was walking in the winter at night with a two year old daughter to get to the meetings. That night she walked home two miles with her daughter in sub 30 degree weather.
I am ashamed that I didn't speak up more convincingly to show her love and kindness. I was the youngest on the body and kept my mouth shut as the old hardliners argued about how it is supposed to be hard to come back. One even said "serves her right for breaking God's laws"
I am so sorry for being a part of that racket. God what a jackass I was. (hangs head in shame)
SIAM
Mine is self explanatory.
SIAM
the watch tower society, the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses, the faithful and discreet slave, and the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, last week issued a "special" letter to all bodies of elders in the state of victoria instructing them to immediately apply for their working with children licenses and to comply with child protection laws.
the letter includes instructions that the contents are not to be made public or shared with members of the congregation.. .
this means an investigation authorized by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses and initiated by lawyers representing the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc. have concluded that the victorian working with children act 2005 and the associated child protection laws do indeed apply to all elders serving in congregations throughout the state of victoria both in the public ministry and in their internal ministry, which includes the theocratic ministry school.. .
Would the letter to the BOE be available during the discovery process of the court case? It seems to me that if the publishers were to see this "top secret" direction from the branch that it would case quite a few to wonder about why the organization refused to comply for years and then suddenly reversed course in secret. What a bunch of jackwagons.
SIAM
the watch tower society, the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses, the faithful and discreet slave, and the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, last week issued a "special" letter to all bodies of elders in the state of victoria instructing them to immediately apply for their working with children licenses and to comply with child protection laws.
the letter includes instructions that the contents are not to be made public or shared with members of the congregation.. .
this means an investigation authorized by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses and initiated by lawyers representing the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc. have concluded that the victorian working with children act 2005 and the associated child protection laws do indeed apply to all elders serving in congregations throughout the state of victoria both in the public ministry and in their internal ministry, which includes the theocratic ministry school.. .
Man I hope that the papers pick this up.
SIAM
Hey Len, the link to the essay is dead.
i always cringed so hard when a "brother" or "sister" would make some overly heartfelt comment about jehovah-something, usually related to a personal experience of theirs, and get all teared up and/or start crying.. once this fringe dude that's been df'd twice now was giving a talk and kept having these long awkward pauses where he looked like he was real stressed out, then he would start up again, stutter, slip up, and repeat the process until he looked down and went "i, i just can't do this" and walked off the stage and left the hall.. it also made my spchincter pucker when a young person would give some super devotional comment on how much they love big j and whatnot, which would make the congregation all smile in their hearts and wag their heads in approval..
There was this one kid who was 3 or so who would scream, "please don't hurt me" and "help me" as he was dragged out of the hall for the inevitable beating. I am happy to say that he is now a well adjusted young man who is not a witness.
Siam
just posted by vampire665 on facebook.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/28/jehovahs-witness-magazine_n_985479.html.
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
We don't need no water let the mother@#!@$ burn
Burn mother*&^%$# burn
This is a really big deal. Odds are one of the major outlets will pick it up.
SIAM
hi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
cedars.
I want to also thank you cedars. You made a huge splash in the watchtowers small pond. Great work mate.
