he always tells me that i've adopted him as a father...we're pretty close.
i spoke with him asking for some advice about whether or not to pursue my degree.he, to my surprise, couldn't give me his opinion.he told me that if he tells me how he really feels (he says he has some strong views on the matter) he may be disciplined for 'promoting higher education'....in effect he was telling me to go ahead and pursue my degree but not really saying it.
he asked me to promise him that i'll speak to the presiding overseer and the circuit overseer....i haven't as yet.
The last KM school had a talk on how elders are not to encourage or even condone higher ed. If you are an elder who has children going to college your qualifications to serve are automatically reviewed by the BOE.
This is why he was hesitant to speak freely.
i'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
Hang in there MsGrowing girl. You are at the same point as my wife. It is hard to come to the realization that the Society is simply another man made organization that has used the scriptures to further its own means. You might have sleepless nights and be very confused for a period of months.
One thing that I have heard a lot recently is the question: "Doesn't the quality of people within the organization prove that this is God's Organization? The are many Brothers and sisters who have made incredible changes in their lives." My response is that these type of people have made changes in their lives not because of an organization but because of their desire to please god. There is no connection to the organization in the changes they made. It is simply because they chose to follow Bible principles, which interestingly is not exclusive to Witnesses. There are Mormons, Catholics, Hindus, and even Athiests who live good lives closely in line with the morals of the Bible wheteher they follow the Bible or not.
Anyway, take care. it is a lot to absorb all at once
SIAM
i'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
Welcome!
Learning the "truth" It is a process that takes a long time to come to grips with.
SIAm
hi my first post.. for the people that grew up in the religon, do you have any memory of being spanked for not sitting still in the meeting?
i see kids acting like kids but the parents take them out and spank them for something like not sitting still.
some of my worst memories are my father taking me out for a beating with a belt or his hand.
Part of the problem is the unrealistic expectations of the little ones. How can you expect a 2-7 year old to sit still through a 2hr monotone program? The kid fidgets (understandably) and then he or she is hauled out the door for a beating. On the other hand if you don't take your kid out for discipline then you get the stink eye from Brother and Sister Holy who wonder why you are not handling the child by giving him or her a spanking.
The kids and their parents are all set up to fail.
SIAM
as books go, it is tiny, but it is immeasurably great in its essence.
it can be carried in ones pocket,but if it were found in a library of 90,000 different books, it would probably turn out to be the most important one of them all.. wow a strong endorsement of the bible?
er no this is the wtbts we are talking about here.
@ nrfg Pretty good.
anyone living in the upstate ny area?
i am looking for expert witnesses (ex-jw) to collaborate my story regarding jw doctrine.
i will pay for time lost, travel etc.
No problem. Hope it helps.
you won't read this one in the wt.... homicide is no longer a leading cause of death in the united states, the centers for disease control and prevention reports.. the leading causes of death in 2010 remained the same, the cdc reported, except for one: homicide.
for the first time since 1965, homicide is not in the top 15 list of causes of death in the united states.. http://www.huliq.com/10473/homicide-no-longer-top-killer-united-states-cdc-reports.
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This is funny.
I recently shared a similar article with a friend and they promptly threw the article back at me without reading all of it. Any fact or information that challenged his presupposed world view created too much cognitive dissonance to handle. He simply refused to read it and said, "we are supposed to keep on the watch", maybe the fact that crime is dropping, is Satan's way of making us think the end is far off."
I gave up with that person.
SIAM
once you realized the organization is simply a religious corporation, how did you leave?.
did you fade?.
were you forced out?.
@Your Momma, great story! inspiring.
once you realized the organization is simply a religious corporation, how did you leave?.
did you fade?.
were you forced out?.
Thanks for your stories. Has anyone sucessfully completed a slow fade?
Siam
once you realized the organization is simply a religious corporation, how did you leave?.
did you fade?.
were you forced out?.
Once you realized the organization is simply a religious corporation, how did you leave?
Did you fade?
Were you forced out?
How did you adjust to life on the outside?
Do you still have social or family connections within the organization?
What did you do to supplant the lost friends, routine, and sense of purpose?
Your experiences are appreciated.
SIAM
