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  Is there anything that could actually bring down this farce of a religion?

  by stuckinamovement in

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  it seems as if they have survived it all.

  bad press such as articles on molestations, neutrality, blood, defections of high ranking officials, crazy changes in doctrines, financial stresses, passage of a 100 years without one prophecy coming true.

  yet they are still going strong with new members being recruited at a faster level than those who leave.

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  stuckinamovement

  There are some really good thoughts on this topic. Many of the comments boil down to $ and the way the money is collected or used. You look at any business and if it can't adapt to changing market demands, and adopt technology to maximize operational efficiencies, it will soon die or become irrelevant ala (dick's toaster repair) or the (acme telegraph company).

  The WTS is deathly afraid of the INTERNET and other means of communications. They find themselves in the weird spot of having to adopt the same technology, that they at the same time demonize.

  I expect that if the yearly report was at all honest about the numbers that there would be a small decline in growth. Look at how many of us newbies are here posting.
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  Never Wake Up

  by brotherdan in

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  just got back from an awesome time in maui.

  today we got a call from my fil.

  my mil has been in utah for the last week or so and found out that her family past was full of "demon activity".

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  stuckinamovement

  Brother Dan,

  Hang in there man. It sounds like you are getting anxious. Remember being a witness is an identity. When you point out that it is all false it can feel like a personal attack and not just an attack on a crooked organization. I agree with undercover that you should not send that email. Don't even keep it on your computer.

  Your experience scared the crap out of me because it sounds like the reaction my wife could have if I laid it all out to her in that manner instead of a drip feed.

  I am still working on my wife. She knows I have doubts, she has always been my best friend and I have told her point blank that if the elders knew that I did not wholeheartedly believe in many of the doctrines I would be immediately DFed. She can see that there are things that are wrong also but is waiting for a clear sign that God is not with the organization anymore.

  She feels that I am confused and stumbled, and that time will be the test as to whether God's spirit is still with the org. So for the moment I am in a holding pattern waiting for something to break loose.

  I figure that since it took my whole life to get to where I was in the organization I can't expect to get out too quickly without losing the person I love the most in the world. So I sit in the meetings, give parts, and sometimes go in service all of the time hating myself. But I feel that it is worth hating myself for a short while to save the person I love.

  Take care and hang in there. It is rough. I think that your wifes reaction is telling you that you hit a nerve. Let it simmer for a while.

  SIAM
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  Is there anything that could actually bring down this farce of a religion?

  by stuckinamovement in

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  it seems as if they have survived it all.

  bad press such as articles on molestations, neutrality, blood, defections of high ranking officials, crazy changes in doctrines, financial stresses, passage of a 100 years without one prophecy coming true.

  yet they are still going strong with new members being recruited at a faster level than those who leave.

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  stuckinamovement

  Cook my socks UK

  You are right the vast majority are very sincere and good people. I know some that are less than sincere though. I feel that the leaders of the org know without a doubt that this is not the truth and yet still teach it as if it is. I get the sense that many of the bigwigs in Brooklyn are as bewildered as the publishers that the end has not come yet. They are just hoping that something, anything happens that validates their beliefs.
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  Is there anything that could actually bring down this farce of a religion?

  by stuckinamovement in

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  it seems as if they have survived it all.

  bad press such as articles on molestations, neutrality, blood, defections of high ranking officials, crazy changes in doctrines, financial stresses, passage of a 100 years without one prophecy coming true.

  yet they are still going strong with new members being recruited at a faster level than those who leave.

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  stuckinamovement

  It is so depressing to think that nothing will ever change. To see 7 million emotionally invested, marginally sincere people, trapped by a religion that's only hold on them is its own self assertion of divine approval is sickening. It is the greatest scam in history.

  As a born in, all of my Friends and many family are still active. It is such a bummer to leave them behind. They for the most part are good people but in the dark. I naively wish there would be a clearly visible moment or action that topples the whole thing.
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  Back from New Orleans, ready for DF announcement!

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  [click here for a little history...].

  mission accomplished!

  my wife and i held off the announcement and were able to attend my bil's wedding & reception this past weekend.

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  stuckinamovement

  SBC congratulations! Your plan was beautifully executed and the reaction of the elders to record-gate was priceless.

  How were you able to get your wife to go with you wholeheartedly?

  SIAM
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  Is there anything that could actually bring down this farce of a religion?

  by stuckinamovement in

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  2. friends

  it seems as if they have survived it all.

  bad press such as articles on molestations, neutrality, blood, defections of high ranking officials, crazy changes in doctrines, financial stresses, passage of a 100 years without one prophecy coming true.

  yet they are still going strong with new members being recruited at a faster level than those who leave.

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  stuckinamovement

  It seems as if they have survived it all. Bad press such as articles on molestations, neutrality, blood, defections of high ranking officials, crazy changes in doctrines, financial stresses, passage of a 100 years without one prophecy coming true. Yet they are still going strong with new members being recruited at a faster level than those who leave. Is there anything that will actually stop the machine?

  I know that there has been a lot of talk about the internet acting as a catalyst, but so far no mass exoduses.
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  The Society, having lost its younger generation, now appears to be doing its darndest to lose the older ones as well

  by sir82 in

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  from all the "annual general meeting" notes floating around, one quotation stands out in particular:.

  many older ones already are telling the younger ones how they regretted not getting an education, pursuing a lucrative career, saving up money or not having a retirement plan.

  the sad truth is that such ones are like the murmurers of israel when coming out of egypt.. what does this remark tell us?.

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  Fantastic, I hope that the older ones see this for what it is, the society giving them the finger. " you ungrateful bastards, how dare you murmur about the the fact that Armageddon is not coming as promised. Remember "millions now living will never die"

  I occasionally assist the accounts servant in collecting the money and have noticed that it is indeed the older ones who are financially carrying the burden. Once they wake up and realize that they will die in this "old system" they will have to cut back on the contributions to just make ends meet.

  The wheels are coming off of the bus. You can just get a sense of desperation at the branch level.
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  After reading this - is it possible to 'doubt' that Jw's would hide Pedophiles?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  stuckinamovement

  can you post a larger copy that can be printed out? Has anyone ever sent this to the legal authorities like the attorney general? Unbelievable
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  Name Some Stupid Organization/ Congregation Rules

  by minimus in

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  there's a lot of them!.

  one rule is you can't wear a tee shirt with writing on it if you are working at a quick build kh .

  nothing with logos.. let's add more stupid rules that were in your hall or that the organization has.. .

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  stuckinamovement

  No after school activities, sports dances, clubs etc.

  Can't run a mic until you are age 15

  If you are a single or married brother and you happen to be giving a sister a ride she must stay in the back seat ala miss daisy. Its better to give the ever watchful community the impression that you are a professional chauffeur in an 83 ford escort; than to have her ride up front in the passenger seat and have them think that you are boning the 65 year old overweight sister.
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  Do you think the Governing Body is having internal conflicts?

  by stuckinamovement in

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  i ask because the number of gb is lower than any time in history.

  basically with the 7 (8 counting barr, is his head frozen?

  ) currently on,you have an average size elder body.

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  stuckinamovement

  I ask because the number of GB is lower than any time in history. Basically with the 7 (8 counting Barr, is his head frozen?) currently on,you have an average size elder body. I know that many elder body's are not unified, cooperative groups. There is always one elder who runs the show and oftentimes there are very heated discussions.

  It is crazy that 7 self appointed men in Brooklyn, have exclusive control over 7 million followers. It makes me think of the saying; power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. It is telling that there have not been any recent appointments. Maybe there is a power struggle within?

  Or do you think that most of the work is being done by the assistants and the Governing Body is simply GB Emeritus?