Posts by stuckinamovement

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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12

by yourmomma in

have anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?

its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .

if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?

stuckinamovement

Funny that this was bumped today.

I asked my wife last night what she would do if I ever hit her? (I won't ever do this and hate people who are abusers).

She replied that she would walk out the door never to return. I agreed that was probably the appropriate response. I am going to let a couple of days go by and then mention this study article and see what her reaction is. If I am correct she will be disgusted. It is incredible that the organization puts the blame for the violence on the victim and uses pressure to compel the victim to stay in an abusive relationship.

Watchtower- you are cutting your own throat.

SIAM

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The WT and GB have No Sense of Urgency Today According to this Paragraph

by LostGeneration in

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friends

from the march 15, 2012 wt, pg 17 para 10. today there are better ways to reach not millions, but billions including those in china, india, and arabic countries where they don't even know the name jehovah.

i guess stockpiling billions in cash and property are more important than spreading the "urgent message" hypocrites!.

"the example of a small group of.

stuckinamovement

I agree. If there was actual urgency the GB would be acting ala Harold Camping. If you are a lurker please take note of how the Organization will pay lip service to the urgency of the message, but their methods of spreading the life saving message are less than urgent.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/203957/1/Attention-Lurkers-Consider-the-effectiveness-of-your-lifesaving-work

SIAM

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Do You Agree That Being A JW=Never Growing To Your Full Potential?

by minimus in

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soooo many witnesses that i knew of had great potential to be somebody, to do something in their lives and instead, they simply existed in a way of life that never really ever gave them back anything in return.

so sad, when you think of the waste!.

stuckinamovement

Yes

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LAWSUIT: The Strange Saga of Lorterdan Properties at Ramapo v. Watchtower of NY

by AndersonsInfo in

the strange saga of lorterdan properties at ramapo v. watchtower of new york.

information compiled by barbara anderson.

on february 27, 2009, the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. (watchtower) purchased 248 acres of land located in ramapo, new york, from a company named lorterdan properties at ramapo i, llc (lorterdan).

stuckinamovement

Sounds like a messy case. I hope the WTS gets a black eye on this.

SIAM

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-04-2011 WT Study (RECREATION)

by blondie in

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wants us to enjoy life?

4. why do we need to set limits on the kind of recreation.

well to determine in advance whether some.

stuckinamovement

I was watching football last night, when an Elder dropped by. He pointed to the football game and mentioned the Watchtower studied yesterday, and encouraged me to re-evaulate my choices. This is from the same guy I was in a Fantasy league with. I came unglued.

I told him that the two examples mentioned in the article for acceptable recreation was "reading a book and bicycling to sightsee" and were the lamest forms of recreation I could imagine. I then asked if hockey, basketball, soccer, baseball, nascar, and the olympics was now off limits for "true Christians?" All are violent, with risks and have extreme competition. Is every sort of competitive team sport now off limits?

My standard answer now when people ask what I do for fun.... "Read my bible"

He got the point quickly that I thought the Watchtower study was a bunch of crap.

SIAM (my mouth is going to be the end of me)

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Pose THIS QUESTION and watch JW"S REALIZE they have been DUPED!!

by foolsparadise in

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i told a current longtime jw friend who hasn't been to a meeting in months now :) this statement:.

"if jw's were so honest and this was the true religion that they really and i mean really believed was the truth, how come they never tell any of their return visits or children before babtizim that if they ever choose to think differently and believe differently and decides they no longer want to be one of jehovahs witness, they will be shunned by all former friends and last but not least family??!!

do you really think if they were told this "disclosure" at the time of studying they would continue?

stuckinamovement

Good question Randy, I have used a variant of that...

" if your mate was cheating on you, would you want to know the truth?" Generally the answer is yes. then I ask.... "If the organization was not what it claimed to be, would you want to know?"

It is interesting to see the look on the persons face when you ask them this.

SIAM

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How big a fee does the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society get for booking Jehovah's Witnesses into Convention Hotels?

by Balaamsass in

curious.

i know travel agents and on-line sites get a kickback or fee for booking hotels.

how much is this fee?.

stuckinamovement

Balaamsass you have a pm

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Recent C.O. visit: Bad news re: U.S. English meeting attendance

by Open mind in

visiting a nearby town during his thursday night service talk mentioned how poor meeting attendance is in the english-speaking u.s. congregations.

he said that when the gb reduced the weekly meetings from 3 to 2, there was a brief surge in meeting attendance percentages.

after a few months it began to slide and it hasn't stopped sliding.

stuckinamovement

Good one Open mind! I am hoping to make my attendance 0% shortly. Siam

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Do you think that we are in the last days?

by stuckinamovement in

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do you think that we are in the last days?

i really don't think we are in the last days.

i came to the conclusion that 1914 is false and is no more than another year in man's history, so hence we are not living in the last days prophesied by jesus.

stuckinamovement

Do you think that we are in the last days? If so why?

I really don't think we are in the last days. I came to the conclusion that 1914 is false and is no more than another year in man's history, so hence we are not living in the last days prophesied by Jesus. I think that the whole last days thing happened in the first century.

It seems like every group of people who have ever lived, thought that there was something inherently special about themselves and their era and that the end of all things would come at their time. Looking back at history there have been plagues, earthquakes, wars, "signs in the heavens" and so forth throughout history. I think that people need to have a point of reference that helps them to understand these epic events so they associate it with Jesus prophecy about the end.

What do you think?

SIAM

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Difference between Religious people and Cult members ?

by stuckinamovement in

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in the words of rabbi shmuley........ "people who are in a relationship with g-d are humble and do their utmost to refrain from judging others.

their proximity to a perfect being reminds them of their own fallibility.

their experience of g-d's compassion leads them to be merciful and loving.

stuckinamovement

Thanks Flipper!, I thought it was interesting that he characterized it as "worshipping a religon". Looking back at it all, that is exactly what we did. We worshipped the structure of the religion, God was ancillary to it all.

SIAM