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Playstation 2

by joel in

so does anybody ever talk gamein' around here!?.

playstation games are way cool!

ssx--fifa--smugglers run.

joel

So does anybody ever talk gamein' around here!?

Playstation games are way cool!

SSX--FIFA--Smugglers Run
Later!

Pax,
joel

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Go LAKERS!!!

by joel in

anybody ever talk sports around here!???.

go kobe n shaqdaddy!

caaan yoooou diiiig iiiiit!!!!.

joel

Anybody ever talk sports around here!???

Go Kobe n Shaqdaddy!
Caaan yoooou diiiig iiiiit!!!!

Pax,
joel

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someone asked me the other day why i am so interested in reading about jws,ex jws and things that are going on with the wts.. i think for the most part,only those who have been involved with the wts can understand why we are so interested in the subject.. of course having believed everything the wts has told us over the years and dedicating our lives to it kept us tied in with them.. what are the different reasons that you all have for continuing to be preocupied with the wts?.

neyank

joel

Thinker,

As a thinker myself I think that it is very cool...you learnin' about jdubs for your wife.
And bein' kinda new around here...I want to say that and that I enjoy your posts!

Pax,
joel

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What is the big Deal !!!

by GeneBean in

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friends

hello my name is gene, i have been disfellowshiped for two weeks.why is it so wrong for brothers and sisters not to talk to me?

?im not apostate,ive never disrupted the congergation.my brothers an elder and i dont want to tell him or my family.. whats the big big deal???????????

?

joel

After reading the previous comments...here are some of my thoughts.

When I would serve on committees...the most important factor(by the brothers not on power-trips) was...was the person repentant.
If they were judged as unrepenant...then they were a threat to others...so were disfellowshipped...protecting others by not allowing them to talk to them.
The problem was...what was repentant to one elder...was not necessarily repentant to another brother.
For instance...a brother could be VERY repentant at the hearing...but...he was not the one that came forward about the wrongdoing...it was someone else...so...that was what some would dwell on...and DF the person(this type of confusion is one reason I stepped aside).
So really...only trouble-makin' sinners should be DFd...which is why some of the people mentioned(David-Solomon) would not need to be DFd............nor would Jesus...or myself for that matter...have any problem associatin' with those type of people...to the contrary...since we are all sinners...the best kind of people to be around...are those who recognize that they are...and try not to live in it!

Pax,
joel

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JW Preaching Work Ends in 20th Century ?

by Scorpion in

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page 12 of the january 1,1989 wt original magazine paragraph 8 ends with the statement that the apostle paul's missionary activity laid a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.".

(a subtle prophecy that 'the end' will come by the year 2000 a.d.).

this sentence is changed in the bound volume reprint to read "a work that would be completed in our day.

joel

Here's one of my favs guys!!

Will the unrighteous people of Sodom and Gommorrah be resurrected!?

Well...the WTBTS doesn't really know!

In the Rev. book it said YES!
In the later edition it said NO!
In the Insight book it said YES!

I remember this very well because I was tryin' to conduct the Book study...usin' my old Rev. book(which was all studied up from the first time we studied it)...only to find out how necessary it was to have the NEW later edition...so I could be teachin' current "light" [8>]

Oh brother! :(

Pax,
joel

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Are you Ex's still Christian?

by joel in

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friends

whassup guys.

i've spent most of my web time over the last 2 years at another site full of ex-jdubs...i'd say about 50 people post there on occasion...many of that number regularly.. what struck me from the beginning, as i got to know the people posting there was...how many were now atheists...non-believers in god...the bible...pretty much anything they once held sacred as jw's!.

i dare say...90 some % do not consider themselves christian now!.

joel

Hey Grunt,

Good ta have ya among those, who have not let the unanswered hard questions, discount it all.

Reguarding those hard questions(existance of evil/pain,evolution,afterlife for the unsaved,why only Christianity saves,science n the Bible)...a really good book that hit home for me on those issues is...
The Case for Faith by Lee Strobel
...check it out!
I enjoyed your other thoughts and the texts you sited. Thanx

Pax,
joel

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Are you Ex's still Christian?

by joel in

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friends

whassup guys.

i've spent most of my web time over the last 2 years at another site full of ex-jdubs...i'd say about 50 people post there on occasion...many of that number regularly.. what struck me from the beginning, as i got to know the people posting there was...how many were now atheists...non-believers in god...the bible...pretty much anything they once held sacred as jw's!.

i dare say...90 some % do not consider themselves christian now!.

joel

Scorpion,
I think that's cool that you are familiar with Grace to You...I'm able to listen to the program everyday, in addition to hearin' John on Sundays.
I'm very familair with Calvary Chapels...they were started here in Cailf. and my brother goes to the original one in Costa Mesa...very family friendly churches...and the messages are as you say.
Re: Mormons...they probably have the most farout views of any accepted group calling themseles Christians.

Your point about 1 John 5:7 is well taken...but I think the Dead Sea scrolls showed that there has been little or no change in the Bible MMS...the 1 John 5:7 instance was an obvious,blatant bias that was caught by looking at the early MMS.

Thanx for the thoughts...I enjoy hearin' from seekers.

Pax,
joel

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Are you Ex's still Christian?

by joel in

jw
friends

whassup guys.

i've spent most of my web time over the last 2 years at another site full of ex-jdubs...i'd say about 50 people post there on occasion...many of that number regularly.. what struck me from the beginning, as i got to know the people posting there was...how many were now atheists...non-believers in god...the bible...pretty much anything they once held sacred as jw's!.

i dare say...90 some % do not consider themselves christian now!.

joel

Hey RR,

If ya don't mine my askin'...I was wonderin' about your Church and what your involvement is there.

Like I've mentioned...I go to a large non-denominational church here in LA...pastor by John MacArthur...a well respected author/teacher.

Good to see ya have kept the faith!

Pax bro!,
joel

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Another sleepless night

by MoodyBlue in

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i seem to have the posting bug now that i've broken the ice:).

sigh, another sleepness night, racked (wracked??

) with guilt and anxiety.

joel

MB,

I know how difficult it can be to get your mate yo read information about the Org....if they know it to be from Ex-JW's...hence apostate.

I had the same deal with my wife...but I found something that worked...books about JW's...by people who were never JW's

A couple of good authors that have more than one book on the subject are....Ron Rhodes and David Reed...check 'em out at an on-line bookstore...and see what ya think.

All the best to ya!

Pax,
joel

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Things said from the platform

by MoodyBlue in

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i recalled something said a while back by an elder during a service meeting a while back.

i beleive it was a local needs part on getting out in service.

basically what he said was this:.

joel

larc,
The point you made about persecution of JW's being almost none existant...is well taken.
With now permitted alternative military service,jury duty,being able to vote,new medical policies...and so on...there is little opportunity for persecution.
I have a friend in France...where until recently all males served 2 years of their young lives in prison...for not being part of the military...but just in time for him...policy changed...and he was spared!

Such a deal!

Pax,
joel