some of you may know that my parents were expected for "dinner" on thanksgiving day.
well i really don't think its going to happen now.
i called my dad last night becuase my mother, now visiting my kids in south texas and bringing them here to see me, said they had "stuff to do on thursday".
Thanks for the invite Val, but would you believe it, I've already got plans?!! A family-free loser like me with plans on Thanksgiving?! What the hell is going on here?
Seriously, I'm having a 'no family' dinner with three friends from work. They've all got family too far away to visit and I... well, you know. sorry dude.
I'll drop you an email. maybe I can drop by your place too (can't have too much turkey and fun now can you?).
-Josh
some of you may know that my parents were expected for "dinner" on thanksgiving day.
well i really don't think its going to happen now.
i called my dad last night becuase my mother, now visiting my kids in south texas and bringing them here to see me, said they had "stuff to do on thursday".
This sucks Valis, I'm so sorry to hear about it. All the sh*t we all go through with family because of this religion...
Keep your chin up dude.
-Josh
andyman stated in another thread:this got me thinking about the change in the 1914 generation.
i remember how this was a very important point when i was studying back in the late 80's.
it was explained to me over and over that this system would defenitly end before the generation of 1914 passed away.
Howdy hlibby76 and Surreptitious. I don't post here much myself, but I do find some awfully interesting stuff to read and think about! Hope you do too.
-Josh
andyman stated in another thread:this got me thinking about the change in the 1914 generation.
i remember how this was a very important point when i was studying back in the late 80's.
it was explained to me over and over that this system would defenitly end before the generation of 1914 passed away.
I think what is most interesting is the way the generation went from being the 'good guys' to the 'bad guys'.
By that I mean, the witnesses used to say the generation was those who had lived to see and understand the events of 1914, and while that could be anyone, most witnesses would think in terms of how 'up there' in years the anointed ones were getting -- essentially equating the generation with the anointed.
But now, lo and behold, that generation is nothing more than the nasty masses of mankind out to reject Jesus and his people. Oops.
Back then, I remember sitting in the back of the hall wondering how we explain to God we mixed up his "chosen ones" with the scum of the earth! (no mix up it turns out)
-Josh
it's early but it appears there is some action here on the front.
will report more as time allows.. we are at valis' right now before dinner: eyegirl, heaven, shuttebug and his son, elsewhere and xw.
noone is dead yet.. film at 11. geraldo out
Oh right, showering. I KNEW I forgot something.
I had a great time meeting everyone. What a cool group we had! Can't wait to see some pics (though a few may force me to invoke my fifth amendment rights!).
Later,
-Josh
over the last few months, changes have occured on this board.
many that complained have either left or post limitedly.
constant swearing is no longer accepted.
I miss MrMoe.
But I've enjoyed JWD ever since I first stumbled across it.
-Josh
my children and i just returned from a trip to germany where we visited my deceased husbands parents, his brothers, sisters, nieces and nephews, and assorted cousins, all of who are jehovahs witnesses.. before we left, the children and i agreed that since their grandparents were old people and not in good health, it would be an act of loving consideration not to cause them any further distress by announcing that we were no longer active in the congregation.
so we went prepared to attend meetings, to go out in field service and to pretend that we were still die hard jehovahs witnesses.
we packed the proper kingdom hall attire, suits, ties, ankle length dresses, as well as our bibles and songbooks.. i suppose to some this may seem the cowards way out, that i should have just announced our new status and let the chips fall where they may.
How are the grandparents doing Dutchie? I hope they're well.
Sad to say, I had a grandparent die day before yesterday. She had been a JW for over 50 years. I was glad that she was not aware of my DFing. Why add stress to old age?
-Josh
P.S. Hey, is that a new profile pic? Cool!
here's a concern... i've been shunned by my family for going on 3 months... and so what?
is it wrong that i don't seem to miss them?
i know that this can be painful for many and i wonder why it doesn't seem to bother me?
Thanks for the feedback all. It's reassuring to know some normal, well-adjusted folks can relate!
Megadude, I especially appreciated your comments:
Constantly trying to re-establish contact with JW elitist family and friends who repeatedly shun you can work havoc on your emotions and self-esteem. Ask yourself why you are doing it. It reminds me of the situation where a wife stays with a husband who beats her constantly. Why does she stay? She says "I love him." That's a lie. She doesn't believe anyone else will love her and her feelings of self-worth are so low she remains in an awful situation.
The burden is on the shunned one to either break the cycle or feed it. Although I have to be honest. When it comes to my witness family, I'm not really making a conscious decision to "shun them back." I just don't seem to miss them that much. If this shunning is supposed to be hurting me... it doesn't seem to be working. It's not that I don't want to ever talk to them again. It's just that I don't think it's the end of the world if it happens that way.
-Josh
top 5 cosmic myths
tue sep 3, 9:16 am et .
by philip plait, space.com
Actually did know #1 #2 and #3 weren't true. #4 and #5 were an education.
Even though I've heard all the rational for (#2) moon magnification at the horizon -- how it's all in my head and relative and just can't happen -- and I STILL cannot wrap my puny little mind around it. The explanations just seem so ... uncertain!
-Josh
here's a concern... i've been shunned by my family for going on 3 months... and so what?
is it wrong that i don't seem to miss them?
i know that this can be painful for many and i wonder why it doesn't seem to bother me?
And sadly Francois, my grandma died just two days ago and I can't seem to muster much more sympathy than I would for any obituary listing. I admit I wasn't that close to her, but still... I just feel like a jerk. I can pretend to cry, but what the hell is that?!
I'm whacked.
