okay, i'm not trying to start a fight - really!
but i've had this strange question/opinion and wanted to put it out for discussion.. we know how the wt says masturbation is wrong - which i believe is a load of "crud.
" i mean, everybody does it - it's perfectly natural, normal, human, and necessary (especially for men, crucial to being in a decent mood).. so, if jesus was a perfect human, do you all suppose he did?
Maybe that's why Jesus was always looking for a quiet place away from the crowds where he could be alone?
-Joe
@Moe - LMAO!! Don't worry, I already did!
P.S. We're all going to hell. First one there saves seats.
If God dwells inside us like some people say....I sure hope he likes enchiladas, cuz thats what he's getting. - Jack Handy
the trial to decide whether the father can continue to allow his ill jw daughter to have blood transfusions is in progress.
four people are testifying in the father's defense.
jim penton, sam muramoto, chris christonson, and greg stafford.
Hawkaw: Thanks for the spot on updates. Wow!
Edited by - joeshmoe on 19 June 2002 10:21:32
the trial to decide whether the father can continue to allow his ill jw daughter to have blood transfusions is in progress.
four people are testifying in the father's defense.
jim penton, sam muramoto, chris christonson, and greg stafford.
Does one have to be wealthy to get competent legal representation?
Unfortunately, yes, at least if you're going to fight something with the kind of deep pockets WT has.
Let's hope in this case justice prevails (for once).
do you think it's possible to fall in love with someone online?
assuming they give you a real picture of themselves and are honest about themselves.. is it possible to love this person before you meet them?
i'm not talking about the kind of love you share with your friends, i'm talking the real deal.
This has been a great thread. From thought-provoking to cute to technically educational.
Wait a minute, what am I doing reading an "online love" thread? Am I the only guy to post to this thing? Aaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhh. Losing...manliness...must...leave...now!
just checking to see if it worked.
this is one of my hobbies.
i haven't been very active this year but i have had a lot of fun racing these r/c sailing boats.
Ken P.
I flew two out of radio range and literally watched them become specks in the distance! Found one, God only knows where the other ended up!
Is there a trophy I can get for being sputid? Er, stupid?
just checking to see if it worked.
this is one of my hobbies.
i haven't been very active this year but i have had a lot of fun racing these r/c sailing boats.
Neat-o!
I used to build r/c planes, but I got tired of crashing my hard work!
Maybe I should've buit r/c boats, eh? At least you can jump in after a boat and save it!
P.S. The pic's look great. Very crisp.
shunning: .
the illusion of power to a powerless person is a drug.
but the son, because he was not baptized, was not disfellowshipped.
Ok, Hello! That was a great article. My printer is humming even as I type this. Thanks for posting it dogpatch.
Here is a thought I had one day. I need to look at the beliefs taught me (past and current, especially the ones used to indoctrinate me, since these probably make up my core beliefs) and view them as principles that I will either keep to run my life by, or as garbage, to be thrown out with the rest of the trash. I find the principles in the teachings. I write them on paper, one by one, then I test them, first by themselves, then by each other. In my case I tested them by the Watchtower's own standards, then to my personal standards, being careful to keep the two separate. I needed to do this until all, I mean ALL, of my beliefs are mine and I can clearly give my own reasons for accepting the theory. If I reject a concept, I also need to be able to intelligently explain why. On most issues I have had to read two books, one pro, the other con. If I can't debate both sides of an issue then I know I don't understand the issue. Dogmatism and forced uniformity only have one side.
I have a duty to myself to test and establish my own principles, that I can live with, then be true and loyal to those principles or change them. The only things in my life that are black and white are newspapers and old movies. As a Watchtower-liberated free-thinker, I am continually learning and forming new opinions on my own, and it feels good. On many subjects my opinion is "I don't know." On a few others it's "I don't care."
I'm gonna post that little snippit at my desk. I'm just anal enough to do it!
Thanks again Dogpatch!
we all know the bible's view on capital punishment.
in fact, in the 1969 edition of aid to bible understanding, the author notes the following: .
"the value of life is considered so sacred by god that the blood of a murdered person is viewed by him as defiling the earth and such defilement can be cleansed only by shedding the blood of the murdered.
I'm only now trying to reevaluate my beliefs with my own eyes and not those given me by the society.
As a witness, with God watching and reading hearts, I wasn't that worried about whether a person was considered innocent or not in this world, knowing that God would make all things right.
Nooowwww. I dunno know. Check back when I've decided if there is a God.
Seriously, I need to give this some thought. Thanks for introducing the topic.
my mom (who wont speak with me, but seems ok with email .
this really exasperates me.
these are hard-core witnesses, and im afraid thats the majority of them.
My Mom (who wont speak with me, but seems OK with email ) forwarded me an email with that title. Apparently all the witnesses were excited, hoping the ban on d-to-d witnessing would be upheld and theyd have to go underground or something. This would be the start of the nations turning on Gods people right before the end (according to a typically insane twist on scripture).
This really exasperates me. These are hard-core witnesses, and Im afraid thats the majority of them. They are so prepared to see anything as a prophesied attack on them that there is no legitimate gripe that can be brought against them that theyll listen to.
Another email I got recently indicated that the sender believed that Jah was disciplining them with the media (Dateline). Nope, no serious problems with the org. Just some correction and onward and forward we go! Cant wait for the end to come!
Its really exasperating! Is there nothing that can crack that programming? Oh well, guess I dont expect any real feedback on this. Just thought Id share.
i can't tell you how much i am looking forward to englishman's bar-b-q, thoroughly looking forward to it, can't wait.. one thing frightens me though, how 'normal' do i have to behave on the day, i mean, will there be decent music there, music that gets me dancin?
will i be able to let my hair down a bit within reason?.
women, if they're all spoken for already, well, it won't get boring will it?
Grrrrr. I'm broke I tell you. BROKE!! I CANT COME. Stop torturing me! The pre-event hype is gonna kill me. And then there will be the post game wrap up.
You guys are gonna have SO MUCH FUN!!
