Posts by bnybyt

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Special day Last talk "No formula"

by MommieTiger in

this weekend at our special assembly day, let gods will take place the final talk was a head shaker.... the bethel speaker was quite entertaining when he joked @ the shortcomings of the elders.

he also made us laugh with the comment "we were told the end of the system is right around the corner, but we've found its been more than that, we've been around the blocks a few times.

" he told the young ones to make the truth their own by researching in the wtbts publication (only).

bnybyt

How much wood could brother Wistchuck chuck if brother Wistchuck could chuck wood?

MT, you probably were at the Natick Assembly Hall yesterday on Saturday, listening to Bro. Wistchuck weren't ya?

That's exactly the words he used. I was taken aback and had to look around when he said the bit about there not being a formula for knowing about the last days and Armageddon being around the corner. I remember how we had to study and vomit back comments about the day for a year and the six-oh-seven being a "pivotal year" and on and on. Wasn't that a formula? I and several million witnesses had misunderstood the study lessons.

It is so very insulting to pull something like this in front of so many elderly, faithful and loyal Witnesses who were around decades and decades back and were told they wouldn't grow old in this system of things.

Frankly, the hour long talk with Brother Wistchuck seemed overly long, drawn out and with little to encourage a person who wants to see God's will be done rather than the will and whim of people that profit from enslaving others mentally, emotionally and spiritually.

How much wood could brother Wistchuck chuck if brother Wistchuck could chuck wood?

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Higher Education and Disqualification for Privileges in the Congregation

by 00DAD in

when i was still serving as an elder in the late summer of 2006 in a congregation of jws in socal we received a letter from the "christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses" (read: the governing body) directing that anyone pursuing a higher education would be disqualified from privileges of service: elder, servant, pioneer, etc.

i remember this quite distinctly because i had just received by ba in education in june a few months before this.

in 2002, i had decided to pursue a degree under the society's then current "it's a personal decision" policy and was quite shocked at their drastic policy change.

bnybyt

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FYI: SNAP has made history today!

by AndersonsInfo in

snap has made history today!

in partnership with the center for constitutional rights snap is formally asking the international criminal court (icc) prosecutor to investigate high-level catholic church officials for crimes against humanity.

the story has made headlines across the globe: .

bnybyt

Hmmm... wasn't there some prophetic prediction that this pope would be the last?

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Looks Like The WT Are Out Of Willing Men To Make MS&Elders !

by Hairyhegoat in

jw
friends

this info is again from the study edition nov 2011 and it's just as looney as the other .

catch more men.

it is our desire that many more men will.

bnybyt

Well, actually Baltar447,

funny you should mention the women... there's new light afoot about this and guess who's getting to be priviledged to take on more responsibilities? You guessed it... the sisters.

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Brooklyn Bethelites under evacuation order due to hurricane Irene.

by koolaid-man in

jw
friends

http://southbrooklynpost.com/news-views/bloomberg-evacuates-low-lying-brooklyn/attachment/hurricane-map-brooklyn/.

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bnybyt

Hey Monkey,

how could you hear the wind in the background if Johnny was in a closet? Must have been some strong wind... or was it a "passing" wind you heard?

*ducking for cover*

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NEW RUMOR: WT ALLOWS BIRTHDAYS

by J.R.R.Watchtower in

i've just read at a spanish forum for ex-jw that the wt has cooked a new light article series about social celebrations, including birthdays and aniversaries.

according to a member of this forum 'in short' the wt will let witnesses to decide by 'their bible trained conscience' either they celebrate birthdays or not.

is this rumor based in some real facts or it's just bullshit?.

bnybyt

Sir82: " seem to recall posts stating that forum predicted radical changes to the DF procedure, elimination of COs, all kinds of sensational claptrap that never came close to being true."

That forum is ExTJ.com and yes some rumors are shared there. The fact that changes to the DF procedure and the eliminationof COs have been discussed in the higher eschelons of the WTS is well attested by some who have connections to these meetings and the information discussed there. Whether something is discussed or not doesn't mean it is definitely going to be implemented.

One rumor that has been brought up at the Spanish forum is the new Bibles that are underway, for which design, the WT brought in a "worldly PR agency" to help out with sprucing up the literature and the image of the WT.

WOULD YOU BELIVE THAT THERE ARE CO'S NOW CARRYING THESE BIBLES AS PROTOTYPES?

They are leather covered in new colors, with not only gold but now... silver edging.

These prototypes are only given out for a six month period and will be claimed back by HQ from the CO's and their wives who now showcase them in the congregations to those who are of the more privileged loyalist inner circle of good dubbies.

If it shows up in the ExTJ.com forum, it's because the forum owners have enough good reason to believe the source.

BTW there are some things which the ExTJ.com forum owners have heard which they've held back from making public knowledge right away for the sake of keeping the identity of the source private.

Belive it or not, time will tell, and sooner or later most things come to light.

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Bethel U.S Zone visit scheduled for Oct 2011

by Red Piller in

it will involve 2 special meetings on oct 22 and oct 29. the meetings will be a. watchtower summary.. a member of the us branch committee will give a report on "progress in the field.".

talk by a visiting zone overseer.

and a talk by the gb.. it will be "approx 2 1/2 hours in length.

bnybyt

Only long time and ultra-loyal Elders and elder-wives, will be invited. Long time Pioneers and elderly faithful Publishers maybe invited also. They expect some may be let down if not invited, but hey they can't invite everyone so the letter says.

Aren't we just so special to have a non-transferable invitation ticket?

Gag indeed!

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Jude 1 3:-14 - Description of ungodly people

by sabastious in

3 dear friends, although i was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, i felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to gods holy people.

4 for certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you.

they are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our god into a license for immorality and deny jesus christ our only sovereign and lord.. 5 though you already know all this, i want to remind you that the lord at one time delivered his people out of egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe.

bnybyt

Hey Sab,

nice post, this is what I understand about the rocks/blemishes part...

the word for "blemishes" and "reefs" are easily confused in Greek.

The idea is that these ungodly people are like a reef, just under the surface of the water, where if a ship happens to run into it then it crashes and is lost.

The love feasts were occasions where these ungodly people were also like wild waves of the sea foaming up and tossing forth the unclean spume of their debauchery.

It reminds me of a few JW get-togethers where cliques form to spout abusive rumors of others in the congregation and out.

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What Changed? I Did. You Did. (or, there is a reason Apostates are angry)

by AllTimeJeff in

(for the purposes of this post, i want to say that being angry, though a real emotion, is not healthy if it continues to fester inside you.

i think anger is reasonable if it helps you to move on from point a to point b. in addition, because of the real issues anger can bring, if you feel that after many years you are still angry over your jw experience, i strongly encourage therapy.

long term anger is destructive to the individual).

bnybyt

Reading CoC where the Malawi / Mexico information is exposed really did a number on me to open my eyes and it was a sort of epiphany. I did feel angry at the WTS after reading the truth of what was going on then.

Nothing else in CoC made me more angry, though, than the life story of Ed Dunlap and how he was treated. Especially the uncaring attitude of Knorr when Ed Dunlap had a nerve problem requiring surgery, that was so painful and yet they sent him to work where it would act up the worst. That was real abuse. The hierarchy of the WTS are truly exposed for the uncaring task masters they've been over the decades.

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Pig in a headlock beating its face in -- an illustration of lack of self control

by bnybyt in

i went to the last dc in amherst this summer.. on sunday the symposium part on appreciating the messianinc king's appealing personality.... the part on self-controlled opened up with an illustration that i kid you not repulsed me so much i had to get up and walk about in the concourse, go to the bathroom and splash cold water on my face.. the speaker opened up by saying a man grabbed a pig in a headlock and proceeded to punch its face, over and over as hard as he could.. just visualizing the illustration almost made me throw up.. there was no way i could sit through that talk.. the speaker went on as if the illustration was an excellent example of how some people lack self-control.. how about showing some self-control in choosing illustrations that don't make people cringe or gag, brother?.

was that really in the outline?.

was that illustration used in other dc's?.

bnybyt

I went to the last DC in Amherst this Summer.

On Sunday the symposium part on Appreciating the Messianinc King's Appealing Personality...

The part on Self-Controlled opened up with an illustration that I kid you not repulsed me so much I had to get up and walk about in the concourse, go to the bathroom and splash cold water on my face.

The speaker opened up by saying a man grabbed a pig in a headlock and proceeded to punch its face, over and over as hard as he could.

Just visualizing the illustration almost made me throw up.

There was no way I could sit through that talk.

The speaker went on as if the illustration was an excellent example of how some people lack self-control.

How about showing some self-control in choosing illustrations that don't make people cringe or gag, brother?

Was that really in the outline?

Was that illustration used in other DC's?

What's your reaction?