Do you mean that they spearheaded the reform process, or that they "started" it by covering up their own abuses?
Investigation into the catholic church started the process.
just thought i would relate a conversation i was having with a some what of a wishey washey jw.
first of all i was sitting having breakfast this morning listening to the trial highlights provided by barbra anderson.
i could just feel my blood boiling ( this was also combined that i was also feeling rather lousy from a cold).
Do you mean that they spearheaded the reform process, or that they "started" it by covering up their own abuses?
Investigation into the catholic church started the process.
this australian investigation is astounding to watch.. the elders clearly don't see child abuse as criminal, if a jw confessed to murder, the police would immediately be called.
yet child rape is a spiritual issue..... ridiculous.. this is what happens when 7 window cleaners lead a bunch of dangerously loyal, ignorant middle aged men ...... in managing 7 million people..
The craziness can be witnessed at 1:05:20 in this video:
we all know the wt basis for disfellowshipping, (1 corinthians 5:9-13) 9 12 for what do i have to do with judging those outside?
do you not judge those inside, 13 while god judges those outside?
remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.. if removing "the man" is a protection for the congregation and no police are called, what does it say about the witnesses view of the world?
Thanks! Starts at 41:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z5Bpj23pEY&index=8&list=PLPQ6KZ-AGhVQbadlzMQN26dvMPzddxlui
Really good point, he is speechless
He would only warn a good friend of his...
we all know the wt basis for disfellowshipping, (1 corinthians 5:9-13) 9 12 for what do i have to do with judging those outside?
do you not judge those inside, 13 while god judges those outside?
remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.. if removing "the man" is a protection for the congregation and no police are called, what does it say about the witnesses view of the world?
since the responds was very positive and because of the "cliffhanger" from day 2, i decided to record day 3 as well.. part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1: .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8ptogc6k0&index=7&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui.
(it will take a little while before 1080p becomes available as youtube processes the video.).
Also, I really dislike the way BCG's attorney phrases questions. She doesn't really ask anything - she just poses a lengthy proposition with the addendum, "would you agree?" The chief justice is probably the best in the room for cutting to the heart of things.
Yeah, she just talks about what she believe happened. No matter if the witness agrees or not
Mr Stewart and The chief justice are going; bad cop, bad cop on there asses xD
Regarding part four of Wednesday's proceedings, I am just beginning to listen to it and Mr. Davies interestingly chooses NOT to swear on a Bible before testifying.
The second abuse victim did not swear on the bible either, after all they are not JW's. Probably not believers at all I guess.
since the responds was very positive and because of the "cliffhanger" from day 2, i decided to record day 3 as well.. part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1: .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8ptogc6k0&index=7&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui.
(it will take a little while before 1080p becomes available as youtube processes the video.).
Thanks everyone!
I hope you like it, especially Dino Ali was very "interesting" to listen to...
since the responds was very positive and because of the "cliffhanger" from day 2, i decided to record day 3 as well.. part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1: .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8ptogc6k0&index=7&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui.
(it will take a little while before 1080p becomes available as youtube processes the video.).
Part 4 uploaded, it will take a little while before 1080p becomes available as YouTube processes the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMEg1OMfuMk&index=10&list=PLPQ6KZ-AGhVQbadlzMQN26dvMPzddxlui
since the responds was very positive and because of the "cliffhanger" from day 2, i decided to record day 3 as well.. part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1: .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8ptogc6k0&index=7&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui.
(it will take a little while before 1080p becomes available as youtube processes the video.).
Part 3 uploaded, it will take a little while before 1080p becomes available as YouTube processes the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tnUaPZ3wfg&index=9&list=PLPQ6KZ-AGhVQbadlzMQN26dvMPzddxlui
since the responds was very positive and because of the "cliffhanger" from day 2, i decided to record day 3 as well.. part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1: .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8ptogc6k0&index=7&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui.
(it will take a little while before 1080p becomes available as youtube processes the video.).
Part 2 uploaded, it will take a little while before 1080p becomes available as YouTube processes the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z5Bpj23pEY&index=8&list=PLPQ6KZ-AGhVQbadlzMQN26dvMPzddxlui
in the posts about the australian royal commission there have been several references to discussions on jw-archive.
i'd not heard of that site, so checked it out.
it seems to be used by many active jws - its tumblr style archive is full of pictures of jws doing their thing.