Even 3 + years on my dreams are usually full of witnesses I knew and all sorts of conflict I have felt. Proves to me that their impact is extremely powerful.
Loz x
back in december, when i awakened from the wt mind control - i would wake up for several weeks in the middle of the night thinking "what are you doing?
you know the witnesses have the truth".
every day or so these thoughts would return.
Even 3 + years on my dreams are usually full of witnesses I knew and all sorts of conflict I have felt. Proves to me that their impact is extremely powerful.
Loz x
sorry for the long title.. i don't belive this will happen for a second.
but its an interesting question.
there you are at armargeddon, and god asks you " why you left the jw's?
I'm with Tammy on this one.
Loz x
something i've been meaning to ask for a while since coming here, is wsup with the writing department's use of exclamation points?
i'm no literature buff or anything, but to me personally, the exclamation points cheapen whatever they're trying to get across.
here's some examples from the new jeremiah book.. how thankful we can be for the teaching done by christian shepherds!.
Yep good observations...its all about emotional manipulation !!!
Loz x
october 2009 .
this is the date when somebody, somewhere, somehow, switched the light on and i realised i'd been part of a cult.
21 years of my life wasted.... since then i have gone through what i can only compare to losing someone i loved in death.
Welcome to the forum Broops...I hope it helps you as much as it has me....as for your dilemma well...either you do some straight talking to your 'friend' so that you can sort out the relationship, which would be difficult maybe but at least honest....or you set out to find new friends now you're out of the Org...but it does sound like she cares even if she's become a bit overbearing....
Loz x
i love every color, every nationality, every ethnic group, every body!!!.
how about you?
let's start a love in..
I love food...happy people...books....sunshine....champagne....my husband...
Loz x
i know some who go to meetings because they feel they have to because of family or other considerations.. imagine going to a meeting and having your iphone with you!.
how would it look if you had a watchtower in your hands along with a tv guide?.
think about going to a meeting with strong booze breath.. any other suggestions?
I would go in and sit right in the middle and smile and chat to everyone I know. Oh and I would wear a Tshirt saying 'Jehovah still loves me'...for the hell of it.
Loz x
the witnesses are worse than the pharisees ever were!.
if you don't turn in a time slip and record your "ministerial" activities, you are no good.. if you wanted to smoke, you would be kicked out, even though the bible says nothing about smoking (and j.f.
rutherford, the society's president regularly smoked).. you cannot go to a "quick build" project and give of your free services if you are wearing a tee shirt with a logo on it!.
Raising a glass to toast in celebration
Loz x
i consider myself an intelligent woman...maybe not strong on the 'common sense' front, but academically i've done pretty well...so...how on earth did i not see through it all when i was studying in the beginning???.
i remember worrying about their 'sales pitching' styles and their arrogance of believing they had the 'truth' ...but still i got involved and became totally immersed in it all.
i feel like i sacrificied our whole family to them, who now shun me.. yesterday, my new son in law, he's a lawyer, asked me how i could have believed it wasnt a cult (topical word this week here) he said he didnt understand how i could have been persuaded to believe it all and trust them with so much and for so many years...... i feel ashamed of myself that i did and that i brought all this upon our family...anyone else relate?.
PSacramento -Thank you for that...no worries at all.
Loz x
well i figure since i have been posting on this site, i might as well share my little bit.
it's in no way unique or special, it just is what it is.
from the time i was a tot, my parents took us to meetings.
Welcome to the forum from England ....another sad story but so glad you now have a good husband and have moved on from all that ....
Loz x
i consider myself an intelligent woman...maybe not strong on the 'common sense' front, but academically i've done pretty well...so...how on earth did i not see through it all when i was studying in the beginning???.
i remember worrying about their 'sales pitching' styles and their arrogance of believing they had the 'truth' ...but still i got involved and became totally immersed in it all.
i feel like i sacrificied our whole family to them, who now shun me.. yesterday, my new son in law, he's a lawyer, asked me how i could have believed it wasnt a cult (topical word this week here) he said he didnt understand how i could have been persuaded to believe it all and trust them with so much and for so many years...... i feel ashamed of myself that i did and that i brought all this upon our family...anyone else relate?.
JWfacts I agree...its amazed me how much thought people have obviously given to the subject...
Even if the person recognized something was wrong with the doctrines, the fact of meeting so many nice, friendly, smiling and seemingly intelligent people, places the Study as minority so they might consider that they've not understood something properly, further making it easier and more likely for them to suppress their doubts.
Once adopted within the group, the new convert is treated as though there is something wrong with them if they express questions or alternate thoughts on subjects that have already been discussed previously. Their new JW friend who spent so much time on them, likely will now become upset and expresses regret for wasting time that would have been better spent converting other people
The above rings true with me too...
Loz x