It doesn't say a lot for the WTBS's claim to possess holy spirit does it? On the other hand yes, indeed it does. Did you accept the appointment?
Loz x
my appointment came just when i started having mixed feelings about the existence of god and wt's legitimacy.
isn't it ironic?.
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It doesn't say a lot for the WTBS's claim to possess holy spirit does it? On the other hand yes, indeed it does. Did you accept the appointment?
Loz x
one of greatest obstacles to leaving the organization is the destruction of the family unit.
as lady-lee wrote about oompa, i thought of this topic, the society says "this is their way to get wrong doing people to return to the loving arms of jehovah after they repent of their sins" .
i know of men and women who are in good standings and hate their fellow spiritual jw family, i am willing to bet, wager that "jw-hatred" exceeds the worlds hatred, something about a self-assured group versus the "not so self assured' creates one plucked up structure.
Excellent thread, so heartbreaking to read though. Earlier I posted the following on another thread:
I have lost many loved ones, it's been very painful so I do understand. I started from scratch literally and built up close friends gradually and am blessed by being part of my hubby's family, who are reallly loving and caring, now too. I have come to terms with my losses. The grief will always be there but I don't allow it to dominate the life I have left to live. In our circumstances it is possible to develop loving relationships with people who aren't blood relatives if we allow ourselves and them the chance, honestly. I've been careful not to let anyone to get close to me unless I feel emotionally 'safe' with them, thus weeding out people with issues and agendas that might bring along abuse of any kind. That's a consequence of the WTBS conditional love deal I suppose.
I've lost 5 adult children, taking them into the WTBS cult was my doing, I have paid a terrible price for that and for staying in a very bad marriage too long. I take responsibility for it but the cult has to take responsibility for manipulating decent youngsters into what they've become. What a shame the cult has no feelings for such tragic outcomes. If only we could turn back time but we can't, so we choose to take Oompah's path or we choose to live our lives. When people hear about what many of us suffer, they are absolutely horrified. Rightly so.
Hugs to everyone hurting, look after yourselves.
Loz x
relationship issues: boundaries, freedom of choice and codependency .
i just read a very interesting thought in the book, "boundaries" by cloud & townsend.
the basic problem in human relationship is that of freedom.
OOdad this is an excellent thread, thank you. Sorry I missed it first time around. It has taken me many years to work all this stuff out, I wish I'd had the book long ago, could've saved myself a lot of pain.
Loz x
i have been trying to get on with my life without jehovah's witnesses and my mom.
just to let you know briefly about me......i was pretty much raised a jw by my mom.
she never let me know my dad because he was "worldly" and was going to die soon.
It's so sad to hear about your mother putting the WTBS before you, especially following the loss of your dad. Take some consolation that its not personal really, she's in a cult which has taken over her priorities and manipulated her natural affection. It's really tragic. It might be thought provoking to suggest to her that you can't be a part of a religion that divides families this way?
I have lost many loved ones, it's been very painful so I do understand. I started from scratch literally and built up close friends gradually and am blessed by being part of my hubby's family, who are reallly loving and caring, now too. I have come to terms with my losses. The grief will always be there but I don't allow it to dominate the life I have left to live. In our circumstances it is possible to develop loving relationships with people who aren't blood relatives if we allow ourselves and them the chance, honestly. I've been careful not to let anyone to get close to me unless I feel emotionally 'safe' with them, thus weeding out people with issues and agendas that might bring along abuse of any kind. That's a consequence of the WTBS conditional love deal I suppose. It has worked for me and could easily work for you? And what do you have to lose?
I do wish you well.
Loz x
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This is going to take some getting over Randy. I agree you might want to think about talking this out with someone very close to you. Sending hugs my friend, and keeping you in my prayers.
Loz x
hey all, i am new here and not sure how this whole thing works.
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Hello and welcome! Looking forward to your posts.
Loz x
in the 10/15 watchtower study edition on pg.
12 is the article " what kind of spirit do you show ?
" right away this article starts drawing the line of demarcation in the sand between who has the right to make decisions within jehovah's witnesses and who does not have the right to do so.
Excellent observations Mr. Flipper. You hit the nails right on the head.
Loz x
got it peeps!
they really like me and want me on board.
i'll be receiving the full offer and contract next week.
Wow Loubelle you are inspirational! I love your honest approach and your excellent self discipline with your funds. Times like that are so very difficult to get through. Im pretty good at juggling the finance, not so clever at saving or self denial lol. Well done and congrats on getting the job. Am so glad about the positives you've learned from Oompa's tragedy. It's a lesson to us all.
Loz x
long time lurker, first time poster.. .
i'm an ms (accounts servant) in a large congregation in canada.
over the last several years i've faught a hard-won battle to rid my mind of all religous and supernatural beleifs.
Hello and welcome.
Loz x
i have just gone back & read 5 years of my old pm,s on here that i received .
gotta go later & read the rest.
my heart is so heavy!!!!
Grace, there are often days when I so miss my mum, not to mention my nanna. What I wouldn't give for just one day with either of them. It's so good that you've adopted us all.
Loz x