i love this forum.
i find the discussions and analysis incredible.
i think the humour in some of the threads is amazing.
Thanks guys...I'm going on holiday to a big cottage in Scotland tomorrow...and today Crisis of Conscience arrived from Amazon so I'm planning to have a read and do a bit of licking of the ol' wounds for a week mixed with some fresh air and the odd tipple ...not to mention some big cuddles with the lovely new husband (he of the athiest variety lol)...
I will think of you all while I'm away and hope that life is being good for you....
Loz x
i love this forum.
i find the discussions and analysis incredible.
i think the humour in some of the threads is amazing.
oops 'snormaous' should read ENORMOUS lol x
i love this forum.
i find the discussions and analysis incredible.
i think the humour in some of the threads is amazing.
I love this forum. I find the discussions and analysis incredible. I think the humour in some of the threads is amazing. Mostly I see snormaous courage and honesty and fortitude and optimism in the members on here. Its quite phenominal.
But...
Oh its so painful to hear some of the revelations about the GB, the cover ups, the faulty administration, the elders' attitudes and meetings, the terrible oppression and injustice and suffering that people are recovering from.
I'm a pretty strong old bird and I have a good happy life except for my losses, but its affecting me deeply. I dont regret joining at all and I kind of know that I need to hear all this ...its part of the healing process I need to go through I'm sure. And so many regrets at staying so long and allowing this to happen to me and my family.
Anyone else feel similar?
Loz xx
do you regret not having said it since you can't be afforded the opportunity now?.
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daring heart 13 dear me that makes me want to cry...they leave publishers with NO recourse at all ....I despair that I had such faith in them for so long...how do they sleep at night...more to the point how do they read out scriptures about loving shepherds???
peaches thank you hunny...appreciated muchly...x
i always found it odd that god would be so fixated on his good name that so many others would have to suffer so that he could say "see, i was right!
i told you so!"..
is the vindication of god's name/sovereignty a teaching unique to jw's, or is this also taught in mainstream christianity?.
Well if we're pedantic the Lords Prayer goes...'Let your name be sanctified ' so I suppose they do acknowledge it?
Loz x
do you regret not having said it since you can't be afforded the opportunity now?.
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Damn the site ate my big reply...will try again..
For a start I wouldnt have made the confession which got me into the JC but that done I'd have insisted on having everything before and during in writing or recorded. I would have refused to have one elder who had big issues with me on the JC too. Mine consisted of 3 two hour sessions which reduced me to an awful mess when the stress in my life was already severe. I wrote a long detailed letter of appeal but ...they wanted to then bring in another 3 elders so it would have been 6 of them attacking me through further sessions and I really couldnt go through anymore.
I wrote to the BOE about some concerns re my daughter who was still attending the hall following my Dfshpg, and it took them 5 MONTHS to come and see me at my home. I asked why it took so long and they said they had to come since the CO was due the following week!! One of them asked me about coming back to the hall and I said ' But if you didnt believe I was sorry how could you possibly believe it if I came back? Its the same 'sorry' so how could it change or you change your views?' No answer. I told them I could never trust that I would never be so ill treated in the future.
I allowed my 14 year old daughter to continue to attend on the basis that I didnt want to take her 'spiritual' life away from her. What a mistake. When she was 16 my older kids hatched a plan, she asked me if she could go and stay with my older 'spiritual' daughter miles away to be able to attend an excellent 6th form college and experience the lifestyle in that area...it all seemed so innocent...we made plans for visits etc but despite these and hers and the older kids promises...when she got there she cut me off and wont see or talk to me since. At 16 there is little I can enforce even if I felt it would be of any benefit. So I've lost her.
Can any ex elders please tell me what happens to letters sent to the BOE from individuals? Do they read them out to the body? Is any notice taken of them? If the sender is Dsfshpd does that alter things ? Thx.
Loz x
do you regret not having said it since you can't be afforded the opportunity now?.
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Oh heck yes there's loads ...let me think about it !
Loz x
i have noticed a lot of newbies lately.
(i also noticed that after being absent for a year happy1975 is making a return visit.).
so, if you are a brand spanking newbie, post here and tell us a little about your interests, your state, your new direction in life, your favorite things, whatever you want to say---this is your thread.. .
Thank you for the welcome ...I will post a link to my introduction story at the end of this post...
I left the org in 2006/7 after a cruel disfellowshipping...its taken me til a few weeks ago to come and nosey around online without feeling evil for doing it...I'm glad I have...I'm strong enough now to deal with what I'm finding and learning....
I love this forum ...the stories and experiences and expressions of sorrow and grief break my heart ...the ex elders revelations make my stomach churn...but I so needed to hear it all.
The responses to my posting here, have included more loving kindness than I received in the KH and from those who should have shown it, for a very long time.
I have a wonderful happy life now- but this past most of us share is such a part of who I am today - and I'm very happy and honoured to meet you all.
Loz x
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/191090/1/Hello-this-is-my-story
this is just a note to all who have assured me of their fondness for me, on board and in pm.. i really appreciate it, and i feel the same about y'all.. this is a great site, and i do get a bit carried away at times.. blame it on too much loneliness and not enough to do on the job, but not on deliberate crassness.. ok?.
thanks!.
sylvia.
Agree with each other, love each other, be deep-spirited friends. Don't push your way to the front; don't sweet-talk your way to the top. Put yourself aside, and help others get ahead. Don't be obsessed with getting your own advantage. Forget yourselves long enough to lend a helping hand.
Loving this Sylvia...high five to you
Loz xx
i was just wondering how a jehovah's witness would answer this.. in john 5:22, the nwt states:.
"the father judges no one, but has committed all the judging to the son".
in rev 18:8, the nwt states:.
Cant see how that backs up a 'three gods in one god' Chalam? I've followed the link quoted and its such a convoluted theoristic deliberation with even different types of trinity involved. Jesus spoke in simple terms to reach ordinary humble people that wouldnt have required deep theological analysis at all..just honest hearts....how can men seemingly 'make' a trinity god to suit themselves when there's no mention of one in the scriptures baffles me ! Appreciating people's efforts though. Loz x
