Hi Mr Flipper ...I'm reading this at the moment too...its good stuff isnt it? And Ray puts it down in such a way that its an enjoyable read despite the shocks...
Loz x
as we all mourn ray's passing last week - i think it's good to remember some awesome points he brought out in defining a " recurring pattern " of control and dominance that the wt society has exercised over it's members the last 130 + years.
so as i'm reading his second book right now " in search of christian freedom " there are some revealing nuggets i wanted to share with you all.. in the chapter entitled " the recurring pattern " it states about c.t.
russell on pg.
Hi Mr Flipper ...I'm reading this at the moment too...its good stuff isnt it? And Ray puts it down in such a way that its an enjoyable read despite the shocks...
Loz x
i cannot begin to tell you how grateful i am to you!
you reassured me while i was one of the walking wounded.
you know that line from the movie "shadowlands", when the student says to c.s.
Welcome ... thank you for sharing some of your story ...I'm sorry you were treated so badly and very glad to hear that you're now healing nicely...
Loz x
my experience is in no way remarkeable but i felt like sharing it anyway.
i was raised a jw.
my mom became one the year i was born.
Welcome to the forum...its a good place to be..
Loz x
okay gang, warning!.
this is going to sound real new-christian preachy to some of you, but hey, this was 1982ish, so don't come down too hard on me.
i just tend to put all i got into my work, but i've mellowed out (called "getting older").. i am not a fan of churches or institutions personally; more of a loner.
I've thoroughly enjoyed reading your story....thank you so much...
Loz x
food was passed from one side and if you were #10 you may not get too much to eat!
when i finally did, she was not at all interested.
but i was lucky it didnt work out, for she never would have left the watchtower.
Really interesting ...cant wait to carry on ..
Loz x
Ice....I dont like ice..
Loz x
since it was learned that ray franz went to the hospital and then passed away, most threads have in my opinion, correctly tried to give some honor and respect to a courageous, honest, and principled man.. some borderline trolls, who know many former jw's are easily upset (and they know this.
i know this...) try to take advantage by hitting on a hot button.
in this case, its to call you a follower of ray franz.. we all know that isn't true.. but i think that a legitimate discussion on this is in order.
I'm not making him an 'idol'... I dont want to worship him in any way at all...I just want to pay my respects to a man that wrote about the way he found things on the GB and sought to change them because it was all wrong....all credit to him...
Loz x
when you first heard for raymond victor franz?
and who told you about him?.
in my case, one special pioneer, who still serves as a special pioneer, asked me litterally this:.
Apparently although Ed Dunlap wrote it ..it was Ray Franz that oversaw the project .
Loz x
over at freeminds we didn't want this day to pass without some recognition of the life and death of ray franz.
in view of his stated wishes not to have a memorial or service we hoped for something that he would have liked for all of us to take a moment over.. .
we owe a note of thanks to v for his graphics work and atjeff for the obituary writing - i know neither of them need mentioned by me.. .
A lovely tribute to a wonderful man.
Loz x
in february of 2009 i slipped a letter of conscience under the doormat of my former book study conductor who was out of town.
that letter was written because i could not support a portion of the materials that constantly was featured in wts literature.
at the time i was a sister in good standing.
Interesting heartfelt letters ...you left with dignity.
Loz x