Posts by 70-Years-Of-Servatude

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New site exposing "jehovahsjudgment"

by middleman in

many of you are already familiar with the watchtower's 10 year association with the un.

there's also a good amount of us that are familiar with the "flagship" rebuttal site of this association---> http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/.

time and time again i have been referred to this website when talking to jw's about this issue.

70-Years-Of-Servatude

Appologies Middleman

I meant to say I look forward to more of your posts and I appreciate your efforts.

Thanks again

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New site exposing "jehovahsjudgment"

by middleman in

many of you are already familiar with the watchtower's 10 year association with the un.

there's also a good amount of us that are familiar with the "flagship" rebuttal site of this association---> http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/.

time and time again i have been referred to this website when talking to jw's about this issue.

You are not alone in your experience, though it was on a different subject. The WTS is well aware of the fact that many of their letters are ending up on the internet for public examination so they have put the wraps on them. Still some good people don't comply from time to time and we get to sneak a peak into the minds of those blessed leaders.

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If still "in", how do you feel when praying in front of a group despite being in doubt of your beliefs?

by Crisis of Conscience in

jw
friends

it happened to me this weekend.

i'm curently "active" and had some long time friends from a different congregation over for dinner.. we went through the formality of praying before the meal.

normally or rather lately i've been passing it off to someone else.

70-Years-Of-Servatude

I'm still semi-active but don't have to worry about praying at the meetings or anywhere else, just at my house. The focus of the prayers have changed. No more Slave this or Spiritual Food that. My kids have even seen the difference and commented positively. My thoughts come more from my heart now and I feel better. COC if your in and going to stay in for a while I guess you'll have to find a way to focus on non-org. subjects in your prayers. If anyone notices they probably will not say anything to you. I'm not ready to cut ties with all the family that I have in the org. either so I feel your pain though I know it's inevitable.

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What are some of the funniest things you've seen during a prayer, and you could'nt laugh out loud?

by african GB Member in

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70-Years-Of-Servatude

In the summer months the brothers would leave the windows open and run fans at the theo. sch./sev. mtg. to save money. They had a huge fan at the side of the stage to keep the speakers comfortable. One night during the prayer I looked up to see the brothers comb over flapped over to the wrong side and waving horizontal in the air like it was suspended from the ceiling. I nudged a friend of mine and nodded at the stage. We both lost it 6 rows from the stage and didn't bother running to the back. When the prayer was over and the brother walked off stage the comb over fell flat against the side of his head which reignighted the laughter.

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Which poster would you like to have a beer (or Pepsi for the sober peeps) with? Why?

by serenitynow! in

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friends

i've lurking for months, and have enjoyed the various personalities on the board.

i'm pretty sure that i've seen this topic done on an old thread, but i don't want to get my buddy asilentone all riled up by performing a resurrection.

minimus- cause he is funny.

70-Years-Of-Servatude

Ultimate Reality, Oh that's right we already have, many times just didn't know. Seriously- anyone here!

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Newbie: Roll Call ---- Oldies Returning: Roll Call

by cameo-d in

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friends

i have noticed a lot of newbies lately.

(i also noticed that after being absent for a year happy1975 is making a return visit.).

so, if you are a brand spanking newbie, post here and tell us a little about your interests, your state, your new direction in life, your favorite things, whatever you want to say---this is your thread.. .

70-Years-Of-Servatude

I lurked for a while. I've made a couple of posts with some questions and a few experiences. I'm still semi active for my family's sake. I'm the one in the back of the hall that more oftern than not is not wearing a suit jacket. I stopped going out in service because my conscience won't allow me to go to the door and tell someone else that the WTS is god's spirit directed org. I study with my family, but only from the Bible and an encyclopedia if at all possible.

The WTS is not christ like. The org. has many,many resources at its disposal. Many bros. and sist. have hit some really hard times lately. I have an issue with the lack of concern for the individual publisher, and the underpriviledged all over the world. I couldn't gulp down organizational salvation. I couldn't see praying only for our fellow witnesses. Why should I count hours talking about Jesus? I feel terrible for the woman with three kids in an African country that walked three days and nights to get to an assembly because she thought that God would be mad if she didn't make use of this wonderful arraingement.

The lack of compassion for the poor was the beginning for me. Next was the UN involvement. I can remember praying for the witnesses in Malawi when I was a little boy. I later found out what really happened and I nearly puked. I'm researching the UN, Hitler, Mexico, OSCE, and anything else I can get my hands on to expose the double standard of the WTS so I can show my parents and extended family once I have compiled it all. I don't care if they do anything with the info, I just want them to know, and know why I'm fading.

I don't have enough service hours to have any priviledges, but they said I can still clean the hall and cut the grass. I told them if I'm not fit to carry a mic I'm not fit to push a lawnmower or a vacuum cleaner. I was offered a shephearding call. I told them that I'm sure I'm already on "the list" and after a shep. call I would probably be put on another "list" because I don't think I can accept the answers that I will recieve to the questions that I have.

Sorry for rambling and thanks for listening. As Crisis said it's therapeutic.

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What Are Some Of The Dumbest Beliefs JW's Have?

by minimus in

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friends

i know there are a lot.. one belief i never understood is that blood fractions might be ok for a christian but not "whole blood".

to me the "blood doctrine" is ridiculous from a scriptural point of view..

70-Years-Of-Servatude

I think it's if you pray hard enough for the FDS that they will be shown to be right in all that they have printed over the years and you'll live because you didn't doubt them

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Looking for questions to get my foot in the door

by 70-Years-Of-Servatude in

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friends

i'm looking for anyone who may have a tried and true question that i can ask my elder father so that i can get him to think about the fds and the fact that they don't have holy spirit to direct us.

i've tried the un, 607/587, and the generation.

has something else worked for anyone out there.. he has said regarding the u.n. that it was an oversight.

70-Years-Of-Servatude

Randy- Thank you. There is a ton to assimilate in your post. I will and then try something. I have lurked at feeminds also. Have you or someone you know sent scanned copies of the "Letters from Mexico" from Franz's book to the FDS? If so did they reply as to their authenticity or did they ignore the inquiry? I have so many questions

Serenity-Thanks for your thoughts. I will try to isolate what I think will bother mom and dad the most and ask them for clarification on it again and see if I can get some open minded thoughts.

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Looking for questions to get my foot in the door

by 70-Years-Of-Servatude in

jw
friends

i'm looking for anyone who may have a tried and true question that i can ask my elder father so that i can get him to think about the fds and the fact that they don't have holy spirit to direct us.

i've tried the un, 607/587, and the generation.

has something else worked for anyone out there.. he has said regarding the u.n. that it was an oversight.

70-Years-Of-Servatude

Hello

I'm looking for anyone who may have a tried and true question that I can ask my elder father so that I can get him to think about the FDS and the fact that they don't have holy spirit to direct us. I've tried the UN, 607/587, and the generation. Has something else worked for anyone out there.

He has said regarding the U.N. that it was an oversight. With 607, that it has to be right because of the events in 1914 and the unity since. And the generation he at least says that he "doesn't get it", but "will wait for clarification." He really wants to be able to answer in a way that will help me not doubt the slave, I can tell.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to post if you want, it will be much appreciated as I would like to free my family from the hampster wheel.

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The longest prayer you had ever endured.

by african GB Member in

from personal experience i know it usually happens at the end of a district convention.

it would be either the do, co or an experienced elder.. they usually go through everything that was said throughout the dc and thank jehovah for this and that...... last year i used my stop watch to record the time taken by our do,.

by the time he said amen!

70-Years-Of-Servatude

I can remember at one DC the guy giving the final prayer was flipping 3X5 note cards. I was sitting high up behind the stage because I was late of course. I nudged my wife so she could see him do it.