Posts by daringhart13

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how is it that some fade out of the org and others seem to be pushed?

by sowhatnow in

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i cant figure out how some persons like my husband and son, simply got too 'busy' and gradually stopped going to meetings, and were totally left alone, and yet some persons.

seem to indicate that people were constantly in persuit of them, for a way to disfellowship them.. the ones who fade never get 'disfellowshiped' unless they write a letter formally requesting thier name be of the membership.. just like the jw org tells people who get baptised to do to thier former church,.

i havent been to a meeting in a few months however it is also under a 'remodel' im sure im not missed.

daringhart13

You're not under obligation to do ANYTHING. Do what you want to do!!

These people have NO power....only the power YOU give them.

I will say your observations are true: some are able to leave and be left alone; others are hunted. I think it comes down to the personality of the elder body.

I was a well known elder and got up and walked out one day. Not one soul has bothered me. But....to be honest......I make it known that if they come anywhere near me, I'll treat them as a threat..... and they are rightfully scared.

Do what you want......you do NOT have to write them a damn thing!

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Disfellowed on 7/16/14 for sending a letter to my former congregation

by spbondgirl007 in

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it's been quite a while since i lasted posted anything on jwn.

i was in hiding previously, but only because i wanted to avoid the shun gun until i had the opportunity to tell my former congregation what i think about the org./gb.

i last attended a meeting over 2.5 years ago but it wasn't until june--when i earned my bachelor's degree--that i finally had the time to collect my thoughts and get them down on paper...i decided to write my letter in a style i felt would be most appealing to my target audience--jw's still under gb mind control --in the hope that at least a few would read it and actually "think".

daringhart13

That letter is the most outstanding 'read' I've ever had on this board.

Thank you for posting that...... that is incredibly well done.

It hurt my heart knowing those that read it reacted with ".....er, duh.....duh.....let's ignore it"

Cult.

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How to prove the Watchtower wrong with their own recent literature (May 15th, 2014)

by Zana in

this is very good, at least it will be in a few years.

sorry if it's been posted here before already.. it's in the watchtower magazine may 15th, 2014, last page: from our archives: they talk about a public speech held in sao paolo in 1923 where they also distributed the brochure "millions who now live will never die" (pictured in the magazine!).

a quick calculation: 1923 -> 2014, how many people in the world now are 90 years old or more?

daringhart13

I wish I could remember which WT issue it was....but it literally had the paragraph reading "May never die...." right next to a picture of the book which read "Will never die...."

I laughed for weeks!!!! I pointed it out to someone I knew still 'in'....and he said 'maybe it was just a mistake?'

LOL.....I knew then I had to let go of trying to help people get out............ that brief convo was so shocking. Literally RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER....and they still 'reasoned' it away.....

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Just curious...how did you find Jehovah's Witness Net?

by cultBgone in

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the influx of new posters made me wonder if the push to view jw.org is helping curious ones find this support site?.

please post whether you found jwn during an internet search or if someone told you about it.. i myself was directed here by a df'd family member once i shared my doubts with that person..

daringhart13

I started by googling Ray Franz.....I was an elder....but I was looking. I got CoC........eventually found this forum....I think it was around 2008?

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thinking of leaving

by justme67 in

i am 46 and have been a jw for only 6 years.

i was doing ok until about a month ago.

we were having an international convention and i heard the brother that had to pick up 2 of the members of the governing body had to get a background check done on him and his wife.

daringhart13

I too am a former long time elder. Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult. Run......don't look back. You own them NOTHING.......you don't have to give stories or explanations......get out and enjoy life.

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The epitome of cognitive dissonance

by sir82 in

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it is rare to get such a startling, sparkling, perfect example of this.. here is a snippet of a conversion going on at jwtalk.net regarding israel/gaza:.

http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/16268-peace-security-news/.

every one who is in the world today and dies tomorrow is in line for a ressurection.this is their best way of being in the new world.

daringhart13

I've often thought it's even worse than that.

Why not just go around killing people and screaming "you can thank me later.....in Paradise" as they die.

Surely you would be 'saving' more people than going door to door, right?

Cognitive Dissonance doesn't even cover the bizarro world of JW's

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Question for active believing witnesses.

by Brainfloss in

oops ---next post.

daringhart13

2 Timothy 3:16, 17..........they say this is the "Word of God".......then proceed to advertise billions of pages of literature and now their website.

Odd, isn't it?

Even odder is their constant quoting of Psalm 146:3............then turning around and claiming they should obey everything 7 men in Brooklyn say.....

A true study in cognitive dissonance and brainwashing.

A human tragedy.

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The Truth About The Truth goes way way way back before Watchtower?

by Island Man in

here's an interesting excerpt from forged by bart ehrman (pay particular attention to the last sentence):.

"a number of the books of the new testament were disputed already in early christianity, among the christian scholars of the second to the fourth centuries, who were arguing over which books should be included in scripture.. the most famous instance is the book of revelation.

a third-century christian scholar of alexandria, egypt, named dionysius, argued that the book was not actually written by jesuss disciple john, the son of zebedee.

daringhart13

No, no, no, NO!

The Book of Revelation is about a 19th - 21st publishing company located in Brooklyn, NY. Within the walls of this publishing company are handful of people that are going to heaven and have direct communication with God.

God made sure that this inspired book was part of the Bible canon so future generations could discern things like only 144,000 could have a special relationship with him, they would be those carrying Watchtower magazines.

Picka a chapter.......any chapter....... it's SO obvious!!!

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