hi guys.
i actually have had dealings with rod and found him to be a very reasonable and "non-robotic" man in the past.. i know it should not surprise me, but i was disappointed to hear his lies and half-truths.. they know their stuff and are not easily led, but he tried to lead the royal commission to believe that 2 people could be involved in investigating a claim - which is wrong.. his lack of memory on what parts of the judicial process are biblical - hello - none are.
there are no scriptures that backup the use of 3 men, a body of elders, cutting people off from family and friends, restrictions, etc.. he also lied about the gb being involved in policy creation and changes.. his statement that in all cases, elders are told to inform parents that they can go to the authorities and get the full support of the congregation is not verifiable.
For all those that have seen the arrogant attitudes of elders their entire life.....How FUN is it to watch this guy squirm?????
He keeps trying to speak in circles and it doesn't work......thinking, educated people just look at him and tell him 'no'......
Cult. For lurking JW's..... please plug your brain back in. Listen to this guy talking in circles and how the Judge and attorney just unravel him.
mr vincent toole, he gets 3 meals a day his accommodation, daily exercise & a degree to be a lawyer.
they are asking for kids ice-cream money so they can send their monkeys to uni to get them off child abuse cases, while telling the ones giving the money not to get a higher education.
holy shit i never thought about that before.
Cult.
Mind bending..... cult.
first off, i don't think that dude is going to show face.
he's most likely on a plane already.
if he shows it's bad pr and if he doesn't show it's bad pr.
He isn't going to appear.
He is a pussy.
Odd isn't it? Someone that claims to be "God's representative on earth" is passing up an opportunity to clear the reproach on Jehovah's name...
...not very Christlike of him, is it?
damn those tricky state laws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmeg1omfumk 15:30 on.
annoying no?.
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Aside from the tragic pain of the victims, the most disgusting thing about this case is that ZERO JW's in the U.S. know anything about this entire situation.
Ask one.......... they have no idea what you're talking about.
Once you leave this cult, you realize that they are the very definition of Orwellian.
tradition within christianity has long been that any time the phrases holy spirit, holy ghost, or spirit of godare used in the bible (especially in the new testament), it always refers to the mysterious third divine person of the trinity, who is fully god, co-equal to the father and son, yet somehow distinct.. i want to present a simplified alternative view: let the context determine the meaning!.
(one thing to keep in mind is that the meaning of the bible words used for spirit basically is unseen force or invisible presence.).
the holy spirit as the mind and personality of god.
This is a funny thread!
This triggered a memory in me: When I was an elder, the PO (no longer a position, right?) confided in me that he didn't understand Holy Spirit or know what it was.....he felt guilty about it.
Of course, he was 'appointed by holy spirit'.................god its all so funny now.
not sure if this subject has been covered recently but i thought i'd make this observation anyway.... i remember when the word "gluttony" was a frequently mentioned sin in public talks, in the wt publications, in convention talks, etc.. in fact, in the 80's and 90's it wasn't unusual to hear the words "gluttony" and "disfellowship" mentioned in the same sentence.
i haven't been to a meeting in over 5 years, so i'm not sure if they still harp on the subject of gluttony or other excesses.
but i can't help but notice how much heavier the gb 2.0 has become compared to previous regimes.
Here is my take on the hypocrisy that is rampant obesity among JW's:
http://darrinhart.hubpages.com/hub/A-Message-from-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Fat-People-Will-Die
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i can't believe they had the cheek to come out with that explanation.. it's no more "new light" it's "new scam"!!
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Again, can they show anyone a scripture where Jesus said generations would overlap?
You honestly have to completely shut your brain off and drown in your own drool to believe this stuff..... I venture a guess that most JW's don't "believe" it.....but as we all know, are afraid to leave
in the 60's and 70's when i became a mindless cult follower there.
were gathering for the elite and they would get sh---t face, i mean down right.
drunk.
The most amazing thing to watch here in the Pacific NW was how the elders and their wives were notorious drinkers.
I was the youngest member of the BOE. I had to continually explain to other publishers, including my mother (baptized in 1972) to ignore all the drunk elder's wives. Notorious drunks at get togethers, baby showers, weddings, etc.
It became a running joke about what drunks they all were.
there can be no more profound form of ignorance than one which prohibits knowledge.
the watchtower organisation is one of the last remaining dinosaurs to do this.
instead of considering the biological and ecological complexity of life it gazes into its own oily navel and says with open-mouthed disneyfied wonderment, how marvellous nature is, how sacred jehovah is, how wonderful the governing body are!.
My take on the chosen path of ignorance the vast majority of JW's choose:
http://darrinhart.hubpages.com/hub/Jehovahs-Witnesses-and-The-Chosen-Path-of-Ignorance
if you had to pinpoint the time or experience that finally made you open your eyes, what would it be?.
i think for me it was the time i saw my dad shun his brother who he had not seen in decades just because he was a da'ed jw.
i thought to my self "no way jesus would do that.
I was an elder for eleven years; a MS for another 5-6.... and these thoughts, couple with experiences, continued to haunt me:
1. If everyone that dies this side of the Big A get a resurrection, what's the point of field service. Wouldn't you be more loving to walk around shooting people so they had a better chance of living in paradise?
2. We can take blood fractions; but not volunteer our own (the whole blood doctrine was stupid to me)
3. I could conduct a Bible Study (saving a precious life), go commit fornication, be privately reproved, bring my Bible Study to the meetings..... my 'student' could comment at the meeting, I could not due to restrictions.... but I could keep teaching them the Bible. HUH???? ummmmmmmmmmmm......
