"prominent" elder (oxy moron huh?), buried in District/Circuit parts......conducted WT for 8 years, chaired too many JC's to remember....
Used and abused
i'm sure alot of you have noticed, the influx of new jwn members with "postitions within the cong" this is amazing, i myself am still an m.s.
working to get removed.
lol my wife (who has been really supportive throughout my fade) asked my why i am doing i decided to fade?.
"prominent" elder (oxy moron huh?), buried in District/Circuit parts......conducted WT for 8 years, chaired too many JC's to remember....
Used and abused
i suggest hire a monkey.. since all elders do if you ask them for help.
is tell a person to.
pray more.
Those of us that served as elders for years can tell you.....that if you do truly care......it will destroy your health...mentally, physically and emotionally
There is a reason many 'brothers' are quitting and not reaching out
i've read how many have been asked the question if they belive thae gb/f&d$ are jehovah's(tm) channel for communication.
this question to finally find out if they should be df or not (terms and conditions apply and are subject to favouritism or who your family are).. we all know too well that the gb arrogantly do claim to be god's channel in their pope like status.. however, when they are made to look like arses they suddenly become 'just imperfect men doing their best...where else will you go?'(r).
so when the elders come to hound individuals and ask the ultimate question of loyalty to the holy paedo ring known as the gb..... what answers have you heard given that was totally brilliant?.
Cantleave,
That made my day.....its the little things....
regarding the governing bodys new light relative to matthew 24:45-47, anointedjw.org recently said the following:.
this new light certainly poses a problem for the governing body.
perhaps this is another reason why they have not yet published a sober and scriptural xplanation of this new light.
If the Governing Body is the "faithful and discreet slave".........who exactly was that Slave until 1977 when the Governing Body was formed?
God these people are painfully ingnorant....its just embarrassing.
hello, i am new and i feel soooo wrong about being here.
anyway i am an m.s and have been disillusioned ever since the new understanding that came out in october.
i have read many things on this board that i have and also have not thought about.
Sacolton,
do you happen to have a reference on had for that ridiculous teaching regarding Jesus mediatorship only for the 144,000?
I'd love to put it in my library.
Its a death knell to everything Jehovah's Witness
i know ... many mistakes and a nasty leadership ,but did jehovah's witnesses fulfill even partially matthew 24:14 :"the good news will be preached in all the inhabited earth and then the end will come "are we to expect a final or a completely different fulfilment of this verse ?
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Yes. Every time you leave a WT in a laundry mat or at a bus stop.....you're doing exactly what Jesus was saying.
i'm a new member & i'd like to say hi to everyone, intoducing myself.. i am a 3rd generation born-in at mid 50's & an active elder.. english is not my mother language, so pls ignore any grammatical errors.
i live in a small country in europe.. i'd like to thank you for all information posted.
some of them have rally helped me to understand and examine again my beliefs.. last new light concerning f&ds=gb has verified the idea that they are popes in the position op pope.. i still believe in god & in his son jesus christ but not in the gb..
Welcome to the party Promithieus......there are a lot of us ex-elders here.......
Fun group of people......hope to see you post more
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You asked what was going through most Witnesses minds....let me help:
Almost nothing about their religion.
Most of them are so uneducated it would shock you. They don't study, the greater majority have never read the Bible, much less their own literature. They are caught up in a repetitive schedule.......it pacifies their minds that they are doing something good......
To test the theory, ask one what happened in 1919. Most of them have no clue.
They are thinking about bills, work, stress, gossip, hiding their drinking/porn. Almost none of them think about anything deeper than what outfit to wear when it comes to a District Convention.
so i started a reply on the topic of "what's your status?
" and it made me think about my df hearing (sorry i can't remember the exact term for what happened).. so i was fading, living in a different country, working & making rare appearances at my kingdom hall.
i was flat sharing with a sister though.
I've served on hundreds of committees.....and I can tell you....the vast majority of elders I served with watched porn and literally got turned on by hearing other people's sexual details.
So sick
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the loneliest place on the planet for me was the kingdom hall.
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There are many, many people that can relate to that feeling.
Self admission: once as an elder a sister came to me to tell me she enjoyed my talk......I said thank you and asked if she was visiting. She looked at me strange and said "I've been coming here for over a year"
I was looking for a hole to crawl into. And I prided myself on knowing everyone.
I'll never forget how terrible I felt.